Where Are the “Good Guys” in Business?

Women Worldwide with Deirdre Breakenridge

Increasing equity and inclusion in the workplace begins with the understanding that they’re currently off balance. This realization doesn’t need to happen with those that are currently on the losing end, but instead with those who have the power to make a change.

David Smith and Brad Johnson are both highly invested in bringing awareness to the issues of equity and inclusion for women. After seeing what their own female family members went through while in the military they realized that this was happening everywhere.

They have both written extensively on the subject both from the psychological and sociological perspective of how equity and inclusion affects all areas of our lives. Their most recent book, Good Guys, is a great piece discussing where to find allies for women in the workplace.

Listen as they share information on the research they’ve done and how it has changed their own perspective on what it means to put in the work. So many men believe in equity, but they don’t do the work to make change. David and Brad are committed to bringing awareness and building more ally relationships.

Show Notes:

• [01:32] Men supporting women in the workplace. Where are they?
• [03:05] David shares the work he and Brad do in the workplace.
• [05:03] Brad adds additional perspective on why he’s passionate about supporting women.
• [06:43] Who came up with the idea for their most recent book?
• [08:21] What type of person is the book best suited for?
• [11:17] Interpersonal best practices men can start integrating today to make a difference.
• [14:39] Men are often big allies but are they doing the work to move past bias?
• [18:32] Learn more about the allyship gap.
• [19:49] Are some men just simply not willing to do the work despite believing in allyship?
• [21:49] Did they have any AHA moments while researching?
• [24:10] How allyship starts and affects your family.
• [27:29] Brad shares his parting advice.
• [29:48] Connect with Brad and Dave.

Links and Resources:

• Athena Rising by David Smith and W. Brad Johnson
• Good Guys by David Smith and W. Brad Johnson
• Workplace Allies
• David’s Website: www.davidgsmithphd.com
• Brad’s Website: www.wbradjohnson.com
• David on LinkedIn
• Brad on LinkedIn