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Trail runners talk freely about almost anything while we're out running. The stories we share can be deeply personal, embarrassing, and profound . . . and sometimes all of these qualities rolled into one. One thing we have in common is a drive to keep moving forward. "Relentless forward progress" is the advice given to anyone trying to run their first ultramarathon. No matter what happens, keep moving forward until you finish or can't go any farther. Some people say that life is a marathon n ...
 
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My podcast guest this week is Shaun Bemis. He is a soon-to-be retired Naval Special Warfare Leader, and ultra-runner. He joined the service the day after the attacks of 9/11 and he worked in Navy Intelligence, giving support to special forces operations. Shaun jumped into ultra-running without the “typical” progression of shorter races to half-mara…
 
Mindset of Mysticism and Suffering My guest this week is Gwen Zywicke. She is a runner, cyclist, Instructor at Louisiana State University and writer. She is an ultramarathon runner who is studying the relationship between ultrarunning and mysticism. And she’s writing a book called Ultrarunning Mysticism: Mind, Body, Spirit and the Sacredness of Ove…
 
Adrian Macdonald decided to run his first 100 mile race ever at the Leadville 100 this year. He was a little more than halfway through when he realized he was in the lead. He went on to win with a time of 16 hours 18 minutes. He says that his mindset for training was to think of it as an all day run instead of 100 miles.…
 
Finding the High Point in Every State Greg and Brandon Bargo, AKA the Bargo Brothers, are adventurers and athletes who host the TV show ''The Highpointers With the Bargo Brothers.'' The brothers explore the United States and climb the highest point in each state. They also take along a local guide who gives history and background about each state a…
 
For this week my guest is Joe Chura who is a podcaster, runner and entrepreneur. Joe started out as an auto factory worker. But he had a mindset to grow, and he decided that he wanted more from his life. Hiis journey to be an ultramarathon runner began before he even put on his running shoes. He stopped playing defense every day and started to play…
 
Nat Collins is this week's guest, Nat is a physical therapist, runner, running coach, 2.49 marathoner, and certified orthopedic specialist. The mindset to run ultramarathons is about more than pushing the limits. It’s making wise decisions in training, recovery, and gear. Nat ran track in 7th grade and quit after four day because he hated running. …
 
Randy was an athlete in high school and college, but not specifically a runner. For a period of time he fell out of doing much physical activity, though he enjoyed hiking and rock climbing with his wife. When he was 34, he was brainstorming with his wife about a goal to work toward and she immediately said “You’ve always said you’ve wanted to run a…
 
My guest this week is Joe Sanok who is a Licensed Therapist, Podcast Host, Author, 4-Day Workweek Specialist, TEDx, and Lead Speaker Consultant. His new book, Thursday is the New Friday: How to Work Fewer Hours, Make More Money, and Spend Time Doing What You Want, has just been released, and he tells how he came to be a champion for a 4-day workwee…
 
The Badwater 135 ultramarathon is billed as the toughest footrace in the world. It goes from Death Valley, Nevada, to Mt. Whitney, in California. Sally McRae was first-place, female, this year with a finishing time of 30:48:47. Her closing comments about her mindset at Badwater come close to being a super-power. She went into this race with the min…
 
Shannon Mick is a Licensed Professional Counselor who specializes in Telemental Health and is an Ultramarathoner. She first got into running when she was dating her husband. She thought running was stupid and would kind of get mad at him for not spending time with her and instead going for a run. She ended up doing a 5k and finished second to last.…
 
Heather Hart is a marathon runner and adventure racer. Adventure Racing is a multi-sport feat that could include trekking, paddling a kayak or canoe, rock climbing and even horseback riding. The course isn’t marked and participants cannot use GPS. There is a time limit and teams have to hit as many checkpoints as they can in the time provided. The …
 
My guest this week is Ciara Carter. Ciara is a runner, personal trainer, health coach, and podcaster. Her podcast is called Run, Thrive, Survive, where she talks about running, psychology, and mindset. I was a guest on her show last week, and she’s a great host. She’s also a great guest, and we had a lot of fun talking about running and mindset. Mo…
 
Sarah McMahon is about to run her first 100 mile trail run in a truly epic race. If you've read the book, Born to Run, you know about the Tarahumara and the wild and beautiful Copper Canyons of Chihuahua, Mexico. In a few weeks, Sarah will travel to run these challenging and famous trails. Sarah is an ultramarathon runner, blogger, and poet. She ta…
 
Imagine running 21 consecutive ultramarathons, winding your way through every county in Great Britain. Matt Bagwell got the idea to create the Run the Country Ultra as a way to raise funds and awareness for mental health and those struggling with anxiety and depression. Run the Country Ultra will cover 1050 kilometers and have a total elevation gai…
 
Margaret Spring ran her first race at age 7 and came in first place female. After college and running half-marathons she decided it was time to run a full marathon. She set a goal to run the Boston Marathon and chose her first marathon to be one that would let her qualify for Boston. And she qualified and went on to run Boston. Her first trail run …
 
Simone Biles' decision to withdraw from the Olympics drew both criticism and praise. I imagine most of the critics never stood in her shoes. This week I talk with Tony Diaz. He is a runner, a cyclist, and Wushu martial artist. He holds several national titles in Wushu and competed in the Wushu World competition and placed 5th. He said, "I saw the l…
 
Trail runners and ultra runners have a streak of adventure in our souls. We love the challenge of pushing our limits. And for some of us, we have a drive to keep expanding our horizons. My guest this week is Jim Lane, a fellow barefoot runner who followed his desire for adventure to the country of Costa Rica. After serving in the military and as a …
 
Ultra runners don't just eat . . . we fuel. And when our fueling doesn't work the way we'd planned, it often leads to problems in a race and the dreaded DNF. Dana Eshelman is a registered dietitian nutritionist, a nutrition coach, and a triathlete. She has numerous half-Ironman races to her credit and is training to compete in a full Ironman next y…
 
Candice McField is an executive health coach and former professional body builder. She recently wrote a book called As For Me And My Body, a guide to fitness based on fundamental wellness principles to help people get off the diet treadmill and become truly fit. Candice writes: Permanent change of any kind begins within. It requires transforming yo…
 
The official minimum distance you have to do each day for a "run streak" is one mile. Most runners on a "run streak" will face those days when the minimum is all they can do. My guest this week has a run streak of 43 years. He's run every day for over 15,706 days and counting. But he thought the minimum requirements were too lenient, so he decided …
 
Ultra runners set big goals. And we put in a huge amount of effort and time and mindset to achieve them. Ryan Steiner is my guest this week. And his ultra running goal took him ten years to achieve. He overcame great physical and mental challenges to get to the starting line of his first ultra. And he found acceptance and encouragement in the trail…
 
You have to be extraordinary to get into the Guinness Book of World Records. My guest this week is working her way to a world record for the most ultramarathon races completed in a year. Technically an ultramarathon is any race longer than a marathon -- 26.2 miles. Usually we say that the 50K (30-ish miles) is where the "real" ultras start. But Jam…
 
Experience is the best teacher. And most of us who run figure out what works by trial and error. But what if you could learn from someone else's experiences? My guest this week is John Krause. He shares his ultra running knowledge and his trial and error experiments as a runner on his YouTube channel, "Motivation Theory Running." In this episode we…
 
A FKT is a "fastest known time" for someone to cover the distance on a set route. The year, 2020, may be remembered as the year of the FKT because so many races were canceled and ultra runners were looking for a new challenge. Brittany Peterson and Cody Lind decided to go after the FKT for the 310-mile-long Superior Hiking Trail in northern Minneso…
 
Rob Koch goes by the handle "vegan-vet-runner" on Instagram. And that title only scratches the surface. He is also a graduate student at Adams State University, studying Applied Sports Psychology. He is an ultra-runner and has a wealth of knowledge about the mental side of athletic performance. In this episode you may find some helpful mindset tool…
 
Ultra running is 90% mental, and the other half is physical. ~Rich Davis Megan Flanagan is an ultra runner, a running coach and has a podcast called "Strong Runner Chicks." She recently completed a challenging 50 mile trail race and we talk about some of the mindset tools she used to finish that race. And the tools she uses to help her clients perf…
 
The Shouse Trail is a loop of .294 miles. The previous record for running the Most Known Loops was 196 loops. Todd Chandler set out to beat this record, and he ran alone, overnight and into the next day to accomplish it. He went on to run a total of 212 loops to make it 100K! In this episode we talk about the mental work that goes along with runnin…
 
Keep moving forward! This is the mantra of an ultramarathon runner. We say it in the struggle to finish a race. But it applies to life as well. The dreaded DNF is always a possibility when we run a race. The mindset to keep coming back after failure is just as important as giving your all in an ultramarathon. Troy Pruett has this mindset of determi…
 
Most runners have an 85% chance of being injured each year. The odds are not in our favor as runners. My guest this week is Lisa Pozzoni, a ChiRunning Master Instructor. She is an ultra runner who has been injury free for most of her time as a runner. We talk about how ChiRunning can help runners be efficient and reduce injuries in this episode. Al…
 
David Scoggins discovered barefoot running on his own through trial and error. Most runners find books and info online about the advantages of barefoot running. And then they might give it a try. David took the opposite route. It wasn't until he faced circumstances that led him to start running barefoot that he realized that other runners were doin…
 
How many more years can I keep running? There is a myth some runners believe about getting old. Many runners assume that there will be a point . . . the effects of getting older . . . when they won't be able to run any more. Dickie Longo is an example of why this common belief isn't true. He has been running since age nine. Now, at 84, he has long-…
 
Ultra runner and 1 million push-ups It's challenging to run an ultramarthon. It's also challenging to do 5000 push-ups in a day. Nate Carroll combined running the Glacial Trail 50K AND did 5000 push-ups along the way. Now he has taken on the challenge to break the world record for the most push-ups done in a 365 day period. His goal is to complete …
 
The question all runners ask when we get injured is, "How soon before I can run again?" And long recovery times leave us chomping at the bit, to get back all the fitness we think we've lost. Rest is hard when you are a runner. My guest this week specializes in helping athletes work through the mental stress that comes along with being injured. Carr…
 
Cath Wallis is living life BIG. She takes on multi-day ultra adventures all over the world. From running on a frozen lake in Mongolia to running in the dessert of Oman or running the "Race to the Wreck" in Namibia. What leads a professional, working mom to decide to run ultramarathons. In this episode, we talk about Cath's passion for adventure as …
 
Running teaches you a lot about yourself. And the strength you get applies to all of life, no just running. My guest this week is Geena Silvia. She is a running coach, a runner with over 70 races to her credit. She also has stepped into racing triathalons. She understands the importance of mindset for success in running and life. And she offers inf…
 
Lifelong runner, Dr. Mark Cuczzella, had his share of running injuries. And that led him to find solutions to be able to run with fewer injuries. He is the creator of the Air Force's Efficient Running Program and the author of Run for Your LIfe: How to Run, Walk, and Move Without Pain Or Injury and Achieve a Sense of Well-Being and Joy. In this epi…
 
Leon Gray wears a tee-shirt that says, "Hit by a bus. What's your excuse?" Some runners wonder if they will still be able to run when they are 65 years old. Leon was still running at that age, when a bus flattened him! He face multiple surgeries and a two-month coma, but he recovered and came back to running again. That was 10 years ago! He is stil…
 
When you say you live and run in Georgia, most in America think of the state in the US. My guest this week is Sarah Griffith and she lives and runs in Georgia--the country. And she has a goal to run 1825 miles in 2021. In this episode we talk about running in Germany and Georgia as well as nutrition and the difference between dogs in Georgia vs. th…
 
Runners talk a lot about shoes. We spend a lot of money on shoes. And we spend time trying to find the right shoe. My guest this week was frustrated with his choices and decided to take matters into his own hands. Thus, the Hann shoe was born. Lenn Hann is an engineer by profession, and likes to understand how things work. He was cutting apart runn…
 
Ruthie Loffi describes herself as "a Brit living the life in Oklahoma" who loves to run. Ruthie is a veteran ultra runner and running coach. She has lived and run in about eight different countries. She started running for fun with the Hash House Harriers while she was in India. This was a fun virtual trail run. The stories Ruthie shares are fun on…
 
How fast can you run across the Grand Caynyon? How fast could you do going across 4 times without stopping? My guest this week is Crystal McGee. In October, Crystal set the FKT (Fastest Known Time) for running from the North Rim to the South Rim and back, and then doing it all over again. In all, she ran 95 miles with 21,000 feet of descent and asc…
 
When life give you lemons . . . The reality is, that it takes more than lemons to get lemonade. But find some sugar and water, and you're set! My guest this week is James Dunn. He's a coach who works with divorced dads. He's been through divorce himself and found the mindset tools to keep going when life doesn't go the way he'd hoped it would. Jame…
 
Eugene Bingham loves to run trails. As a journalist and podcaster, he loves to write and talk about trail and ultra running too. Eugene's almost 30 year journalism career has earned him multiple awards. And he shares his stories about running in "Stuff," an online news site covering New Zealand and world news. He also co-hosts "Dirt Church Radio Po…
 
Theresa Reyes-Cummings has the kind of determination to keep going after the goals she sets. I had the privilege to crew for her as she ran a 100K "rails to trails" course this summer. She then went on to finish her first 100 mile trail race, this fall, on a challenging course: The Mines of Spain in Davenport, IA. She always has an encouraging word…
 
I'm glad to have Brian Hoover back as a guest on Trail Talk! Last time we talked about his adventures as a trail runner, van living, and his hike of the Pacific Coast Trail last year. At that time, he was planning a kayak adventure of the entire Mississippi River. I followed his adventure through his Facebook posts, and am excited that he has agree…
 
This week my guest is Randy Kreill. His most recent race finish is the Cloudsplitter 100. The website says about this race: "This is one of the more physically demanding trails in the East, and it remains a significant unprotected wilderness area. On a clear day, four other states can be seen from the High Knob summit: West Virginia, Tennessee, Ken…
 
Lindsey McDonald is part of the Trail Nerds running group in Kansas City. In this episode we talk about nutrition, hills, and training at altitude, and the difference between running up and down mountains vs. up and down hills. Lindsey trains hard, and is a strong competitor on even the gnarliest trails. And she has her sights set on some big goals…
 
For those of us who look at running 100 miles as a challenging goal, the idea of going 200 miles or more seems incredible. My guest this week is David Theriot. He's placed among the top finishers in several 100 mile races, run the Grand Canyon rim-to-rim-to-rim, ran in Western States 100, and the Tahoe 200. Now he has his sights set on the Triple C…
 
I met Jo Hearlson in person for just a few seconds when she came through an aid station I was helping with. But even then, I didn't know her name. I only knew her through Instagram where she goes by "adventuresofarunner." She has a goal to run at least a mile in every county in Kansas and she had her sights set on a 24 hour race and 100K. The adven…
 
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