113. How to go from Toxic Boss to Human Leader, with Alexis Zahner

Truth, Lies and Work

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This episode is part of our special summer series where we bring you interviews with inspiring leaders twice a week throughout July.

Today, we are thrilled to welcome Alexis Zahner, co-founder of Human Leaders. Alexis shares her transformative journey from a high-performing footballer to a toxic workplace competitor and finally, to a human-centric leader committed to fostering workplaces where people thrive.

Her experiences at Patagonia played a pivotal role in shaping her leadership philosophy and inspired her to start Human Leaders.

Key Talking Points:

Alexis's Journey:

• From high-level football in Australia to marketing consultant.
• Transitioning to leadership roles and the impact of toxic workplace cultures.
• Life-changing experience at Patagonia and the realization of a human-centric leadership approach.

Founding Human Leaders:

• Establishing a leadership development company.
• Focus on supporting teams and creating workplaces where humans thrive.
• The importance of self-leadership, emotional wisdom, and empowered agency.

Transformational Leadership:

• The shift from task-oriented to human-centric leadership.
• Building trust and creating a supportive environment for employees.
• The role of feedback and continuous improvement in leadership.

The Power of a Great Workplace:

• How positive workplace culture can transform employees' attitudes and performance.
• Examples from Alexis's experience at Patagonia.

Human-Centric Leadership Explained:

• Definition and benefits of human-centric leadership.
• Addressing misconceptions about human-centric approaches.
• The balance between productivity and employee well-being.

Self-Leadership:

• The importance of self-awareness, emotional intelligence, and empowered agency.
• Practical tips for leaders to develop self-leadership skills.

Guest Information:

Alexis Zahner is the co-founder of Human Leaders, a leadership development company dedicated to creating workplaces where humans thrive. Alexis’s work focuses on fostering human-centric leadership and supporting leaders through self-leadership and emotional wisdom.

Find out more: We Are Human Leaders

LinkedIn: Alexis Zahner

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Join us on Thursday for another inspiring interview with Cate Luzio, who transitioned from being an MD at major banks to founding one of the fastest-growing networks for managers in the US.