Kat & Omkari interview each other

Stepping Into Truth: Conversations on Social Justice and How We Get Free

Kat Calvin & Omkari Williams

Kat Calvin and I both wrote books! Kat's is American Identity In Crisis: Notes from an Accidental Activist. Mine is Micro Activism: How You Can Make a Difference in the World (Without a Bullhorn).

When we realized that our books were coming out within weeks of each other we thought that we should have a conversation about them and the work we do in the world.

Kat's work is getting the 26 million Americans who don't have ID the state issued ID that they need to do things like get a job, a home, a bank account, you know, little things like that. Mine, if you don't know, is getting folks to engage in micro activism, tiny actions that add us to big changes.

In this conversation we not only talk about serious things but we also laugh, a lot. I loved this conversation and I think you will too.

Definitely, buy both our books. They are really good! We did not write them together, though the covers do coordinate beautifully and the themes do have a lot of crossover. Holiday gifts, yeah!!!

Have you met Kat?

About Kat:

She's been a guest on the podcast before, but in case you haven't met her, let me tell you about her. Kat Calvin is the founder and executive director of Spread The Vote + Project ID and the cofounder and CEO of the Project ID Action Fund. A lawyer, activist, and social entrepreneur, she has built a national organization that helps Americans obtain the IDs they need for jobs, housing, life—and in some states, the voting booth. Kat and her work have been featured in the New York Times, the Los Angeles Times, The Washington Post, The Atlantic, and on NPR, PBS, BET, and many other outlets. She has been a guest commentator on MSNBC, CNN, Headline News, Sirius XM, and more, as well as a frequent keynote speaker and a sought-after voice for her expertise and opinions on politics, voting, ID-related issues, and more.

For a written transcript of this episode click here

Connect with Kat:
Project ID
Instagram

Credits:
Harmonica music courtesy of a friend.