Episode 5: Unmasking The Puppeteer

Chasing Ghosts

For the first time in 13 years, David Fisher sits down with Natalia Burgess to talk about her catfishing. While he gains new insight into her life, how she operates her false characters, and her reasons for doing it, something's missing. And then an email out of the blue offers the answers he's been waiting for.

And one victim of Natalia's catfishing reveals the devastating consequences of having these memories resurface.

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