In this episode, we welcome back David French, columnist for The New York Times , former constitutional attorney, and author of Divided We Fall . We discuss the current state of American democracy, the challenges of political division, and how we can engage in civil discourse despite deep ideological differences. David also shares a personal update on his family and reflects on the profound trials and growth that come with adversity. 📌 What We Discuss: ✔️ How David and his family navigated the challenges of a serious health crisis. ✔️ The rise of political polarization and the factors driving it. ✔️ Why distinguishing between “unwise, unethical, and unlawful” is crucial in analyzing political actions. ✔️ How consuming different perspectives (even opposing ones) helps in understanding political dynamics. ✔️ The role of Christian values in politics and how they are being redefined. ⏳ Episode Highlights 📍 [00:01:00] – David French’s background and his journey from litigation to journalism. 📍 [00:02:30] – Personal update: David shares his wife Nancy’s battle with cancer and their journey as a family. 📍 [00:06:00] – How to navigate personal trials while maintaining faith and resilience. 📍 [00:10:00] – The danger of political paranoia and the pitfalls of extreme polarization. 📍 [00:18:00] – The "friend-enemy" paradigm in American politics and its influence in Christian fundamentalism. 📍 [00:24:00] – Revisiting Divided We Fall : How America’s divisions have devolved since 2020. 📍 [00:40:00] – The categories and differences of unwise, unethical, and unlawful political actions. 📍 [00:55:00] – The balance between justice, kindness, and humility in political engagement. 📍 [01:00:00] – The After Party initiative: A Christian approach to politics focused on values rather than policy. 💬 Featured Quotes 🔹 "You don't know who you truly are until your values are tested." – David French 🔹 "If we focus on the relational, we can have better conversations even across deep differences." – Corey Nathan 🔹 "Justice, kindness, and humility—if you're missing one, you're doing it wrong." – David French 🔹 "The United States has a history of shifting without repenting. We just move on." – David French 📚 Resources Mentioned David French’s Writing: New York Times David’s Book: Divided We Fall The After Party Initiative – More Info Advisory Opinions Podcast (with Sarah Isgur & David French) – Listen Here 📣 Call to Action If you found this conversation insightful, please: ✅ Subscribe to Talkin' Politics & Religion Without Killin' Each Other on your favorite podcast platform. ✅ Leave a review on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen: ratethispodcast.com/goodfaithpolitics ✅ Support the show on Patreon: patreon.com/politicsandreligion ✅ Watch the full conversation and subscribe on YouTube: youtube.com/@politicsandreligion 🔗 Connect With Us on Social Media @coreysnathan: Bluesky LinkedIn Instagram Threads Facebook Substack David French: 🔗 Twitter | BlueSky | New York Times Our Sponsors Meza Wealth Management: www.mezawealth.com Prolux Autogroup: www.proluxautogroup.com or www.granadahillsairporttransportation.com Let’s keep talking politics and religion—with gentleness and respect. 🎙️💡…
The “Judy Ley Allen México Centered” podcast features interviews with academics, former government officials, and other experts on issues central to U.S.-Mexico relations, including trade, immigration, and public safety. New episodes are released monthly. The podcast is hosted by the Center for Energy Studies at Rice University’s Baker Institute in Houston, Texas. Learn about our work at bakerinstitute.org/usmx.
The “Judy Ley Allen México Centered” podcast features interviews with academics, former government officials, and other experts on issues central to U.S.-Mexico relations, including trade, immigration, and public safety. New episodes are released monthly. The podcast is hosted by the Center for Energy Studies at Rice University’s Baker Institute in Houston, Texas. Learn about our work at bakerinstitute.org/usmx.
On “ México Centered ,” host Tony Payan continued his conversation on the future of artificial intelligence (AI) in Mexico with Laura Ripani , Mexico’s country representative at the Inter-American Development Bank, and friend of the podcast Alejandro Dabdoub . They explored major questions about the future of work as AI advances: What implications does the advent of generative AI have for Mexico’s workforce and the global value chain? How can policymakers leverage AI for economic growth while confronting domestic inequality? And how can Latin America take advantages of disruptions like DeepSeek, the Chinese start-up that caused shockwaves in the industry with its low-cost AI model? This conversation was recorded on Feb. 6, 2025. Subscribe and listen to “ Judy Ley Allen México Centered ” on Apple , Spotify , or wherever you listen to podcasts. Follow @BakerInstMexico on X , LinkedIn , and Bluesky . Subscribe to the “US-Mexico Update,” delivered monthly, at bakerinstitute.org/newsletters.…
In February, “México Centered” host Tony Payan joined three other Baker Institute experts to explore President Donald Trump’s plans to impose tariffs on Mexican, Canadian, and Chinese goods and what they mean for U.S. industries and consumers — as well as our relationships with our largest trading partners. The conversation was moderated by John Diamond, director of the Baker Institute Center for Tax and Budget Policy. This episode was originally recorded in front of a live studio audience on Feb. 6, 2025, for the “ Baker Briefing ” podcast. Follow @BakerInstMexico on X , LinkedIn , and Bluesky . Subscribe to the “US-Mexico Update,” delivered monthly, at bakerinstitute.org/newsletters.…
Mexico was once one of the biggest leaders in artificial intelligence (AI) globally, but progress has since stalled. Now, there’s renewed hope: President Claudia Sheinbaum, who took office in October 2024, has created an Agency for Digital Transformation and Telecommunications (ATDT), and the topic is also receiving attention from the Mexican Congress. However, many questions remain. Will Mexico assign the right resources for advancement in a highly competitive field? Does it have the right team in place? Can it find and manage the right partnerships among universities, the private sector, and other actors abroad? Claudia del Pozo , founder and director of the Eon Institute, and friend of the podcast Alejandro Dabdoub joined “México Centered” to discuss the barriers and opportunities ahead, from advancing responsible AI to the implications of the emerging technology for Mexico’s labor force. This conversation was recorded on Feb. 6, 2025. Subscribe and listen to “ Judy Ley Allen México Centered ” on Apple , Spotify , or wherever you listen to podcasts. Follow @BakerInstMexico on X , LinkedIn , and Bluesky . Subscribe to the “US-Mexico Update,” delivered monthly, at bakerinstitute.org/newsletters.…
On Nov. 15, 2024, the Mexican government released its budget proposal for Fiscal Year 2025, which runs from Jan. 1 through Dec. 31. The government pledged to narrow its fiscal deficit from around 6% in 2024 to around 3% in 2025, and according to the budget proposal, there will be no additional taxes, and the economy will grow between 2% and 3% next year. Within the same proposal, the government dramatically increases social spending, but cuts the budget for government goods and services, such as education, health care, and infrastructure, among other things. Is that realistic? Here to discuss where the government plans to make cuts, whether it is realistic to expect 3% growth, what it means for investment, and more is Mariana Campos , head of the think tank “México Evalúa,” which focuses on government performance and accountability. For 10 years, she served as coordinator of México Evalúa’s Public Expenditure and Accountability Program. She also joined our Center for the U.S. and Mexico as a visiting scholar in 2022. Follow the Baker Institute Center for the U.S. and Mexico on X , LinkedIn , and Bluesky . Subscribe to the “US-Mexico Update,” delivered monthly, by opting in here .…
On the campaign trail, Mexico was very much in Donald Trump’s cross-hairs. Now that he’s set to return to office, his pledges — including mass deportation of undocumented immigrants, a 25% tariff on Mexican goods and services, and a “war on drug cartels” — could indeed become reality. What could these policies look like in practice, and how will they shape the future of the U.S.-Mexico relationship? How might Claudia Sheinbaum, Mexico’s president, respond to this hawkish ideological shift in U.S. politics? Here to explore what lies ahead is Christopher Landau, who served as U.S. ambassador to Mexico from 2019 to 2021, bridging the first Trump and Biden administration and overseeing the ratification and entry into force of the USMCA, the current North American free trade agreement. For more information on the Baker Institute Center for the United States and Mexico visit our website , and follow us on X/Twitter, LinkedIn and Bluesky . To join our mailing list, please subscribe here and make sure to opt-in to "U.S.-Mexico Update.…
The Center for the United States and Mexico at Rice University’s Baker Institute stays abreast of the many issues affecting the binational relationship–including some issues that are not as intuitive and are often not in the media. One of these is artificial intelligence. To explore what AI can do to the U.S.-Mexico relationship - in academia, security, cybersecurity, and labor - we sat down with Chris Bronk , a nonresident fellow at the Baker Institute and an associate professor at the University of Houston, where he directs the graduate cybersecurity program; and Alejandro Dabdoub , Mexican investor, businessman and writer. For more information on the Baker Institute Center for the United States and Mexico visit our website , and follow us on X/Twitter and LinkedIn . To join our mailing list, please subscribe here and make sure to opt-in to "U.S.-Mexico Update."…
Mexico’s sweeping overhaul of the country’s court system took effect last month, in the final weeks before President López Obrador handed the keys of the National Palace to his mentee and successor, President Claudia Sheinbaum. Mexico is now one of the few countries in the world that elects its judges, including at the Supreme Court level, by popular vote, rather than by appointment. This widely controversial move has led to protests by the federal judiciary, as well as criticism by the United States, Mexico’s top trading partner. What exactly does the overhaul entail, and what’s next? Back on the podcast to discuss are Javier Martín Reyes , a researcher and professor at UNAM, the Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México, and David Gantz , the Baker Institute’s Will Clayton Fellow in Trade and International Economics. For more information on the Baker Institute Center for the United States and Mexico visit our website , and follow us on X/Twitter and LinkedIn . To join our mailing list, please subscribe here and make sure to opt-in to "U.S.-Mexico Update."…
International trade has flourished in recent decades. In the U.S., which is both the world’s largest importer and exporter of goods and services, trade has lowered the costs of everyday goods, raised the living standard, and fueled job growth. But it has also eliminated some jobs, mostly in manufacturing. As a result, support for free trade has declined. Today, American policymakers are embracing industrial policies, which are designed to promote specific sectors, especially manufacturing, in a way not seen since the 1980s. President Biden’s “Buy American” policies are a prime example of this. How can we rebuild trust in trade and use it to ensure that the U.S. remains competitive globally? In this episode we sit down with C.J. Mahoney , former deputy U.S. trade representative and chief U.S. negotiator for the USMCA, in 2020, and David Gantz , the Baker Institute’s Will Clayton Fellow in Trade and International Economics. We explore major challenges on the horizon for U.S. trade policy, including the upcoming review of the USMCA in 2026 and the rising influence of China. For video of the event "Election Insights: The Future of US Trade Policy," visit: https://www.bakerinstitute.org/event/election-insights-future-us-trade-policy For more information on the Baker Institute Center for the United States and Mexico visit our website , and follow us on X/Twitter and LinkedIn . To join our mailing list, please subscribe here and make sure to opt-in to "U.S.-Mexico Update."…
Late last month, Mexican President Andrés Manuel López Obrador announced a “pause” in relations with the U.S. embassy. These latest tensions between the two countries came after U.S. Ambassador to Mexico Ken Salazar criticized López Obrador’s proposed judicial reforms, which include electing judges by popular vote. Salazar called this measure “a major risk to the functioning of Mexico’s democracy.” When Mexican President-elect Claudia Sheinbaum, López Obrador’s protégé, takes office on Oct. 1, she will inherit the strained relationship with the U.S. and a host of other challenges facing Mexico. Tony Payan , director of the Baker Institute Center for the U.S. and Mexico, joined Baker Briefing to discuss the issues setting the backdrop for the new Sheinbaum administration and how she may — or may not — diverge from López Obrador’s playbook. For more information on the Baker Institute Center for the United States and Mexico visit our website , and follow us on X/Twitter and LinkedIn . To join our mailing list, please subscribe here and make sure to opt-in to "U.S.-Mexico Update."…
In this month's episode of Mexico Centered, Tony Payan sits down with Carlos Moreno Jaimes , professor and researcher at ITESO Universidad Jesuita de Guadalajara, about voter attitudes in the Mexican and U.S. electorates and a recent survey he conducted to look at this issue. For more information on the Baker Institute Center for the United States and Mexico visit our website , and follow us on X/Twitter and LinkedIn . To join our mailing list, please subscribe here and make sure to opt-in to "U.S.-Mexico Update."…
Tony Payan sits down with Lorena Becerra , political analyst and CEO of Lorena Becerra Encuestas, to analyze the results of Mexico’s presidential election on June 2, 2024. For more information on the Baker Institute Center for the United States and Mexico visit our website , and follow us on X/Twitter and LinkedIn . To join our mailing list, please subscribe here and make sure to opt-in to "U.S.-Mexico Update."…
In this episode we sit down with Javier Martin Reyes , researcher at the Institute for Legal Research at Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México (UNAM) for a conversation on Mexico's post-presidential election scenarios and their possible legal consequences. For more information on the Baker Institute Center for the United States and Mexico visit our website , and follow us on X/Twitter and LinkedIn . To join our mailing list, please subscribe here and make sure to opt-in to "U.S.-Mexico Update."…
As Mexico's current presidential administration approaches its final days, key questions about the country’s future arise. Some of the critical challenges facing Mexico range from political to democratic principles, such as the growing poverty rate, the state of public safety, and the U.S.–Mexico binational relationship. How will the next presidential administration tackle these issues? In this episode we have a wide-ranging conversation with Carlos Bravo Regidor , a political analyst for media outlets Expansión Política, Gatopardo, ForoTV, and Radio Fórmula. Joined by the Center for the U.S. and Mexico Director Tony Payan , the two discussed Mexico’s challenges and opportunities for the next presidential administration. For more information on the Baker Institute Center for the United States and Mexico visit our website , and follow us on X/Twitter and LinkedIn . To join our mailing list, please subscribe here and make sure to opt-in to "U.S.-Mexico Update."…
We're back! After a hiatus of almost 2 years the Mexico Centered podcast returns...and just in time for Mexico's 2024 presidential elections. In this episode, a crossover with the Baker Institute's Baker Briefing podcast, host and Baker Institute fellow Edward M. Emmett sits down with Tony Payan, director, and Jose Ivan Rodriguez-Sanchez, scholar, of the Baker Institute Center for the U.S. and Mexico, to look ahead at Mexico's 2024 elections. For more information on the Baker Institute Center for the United States and Mexico visit our website , and follow us on X/Twitter and LinkedIn . To join our mailing list, please subscribe here and make sure to opt-in to "U.S.-Mexico Update."…
In his final episode as host, Enrique Quezada sits down with Tony Payan, director of the Baker Institute Center for the U.S. and Mexico, to look back at how the podcast started and the role it has played at the Center. Enrique talks about preparing for interviews and the behind-the-scenes work to produce Mexico Centered. For more information on the Baker Institute Center for the United States and Mexico visit our website , and follow us on Twitter and LinkedIn . To join our mailing list, please subscribe here and make sure to opt-in to "Center for the U.S. and Mexico Communications."…
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