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×1 Blood Meridian, part 2: It's time for some game theory 1:54:16
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1:54:16"He never sleeps, the judge. He is dancing, dancing. He says that he will never die." Wrapping up the second half of our discussion on Cormac McCarthy's 1985 classic, in which various chickens come home to roost. The Glanton gang's downfall: on the run from the Sonoran cavalry, mercy killings, greed and symbolism of coins, the takeover of the ferry, the Yuma strike back, the judge's apocalypse-chic fashion, the Idiot plays his part (??). On violence and human nature: Rich makes the base case that humans don't have a 'true' nature but respond to local incentives, Benny finds some logic in the conservative tradition for avoiding a major upset to the fragile equilibrium of modern civilisation, and Cam adds game theoretic reasons for having a government or third party that can make credible threats of violence. What makes the Kid different: Rich thinks he isn't any more moral than the rest of the gang, but we end up coming up with a pretty good explanation for why the judge singles him out for opprobrium and considers him such a disappointment. On the sunset of the Wild West: the kid becomes the man, the cycle of violence perpetuates itself, mass slaughter of the buffalo, McCarthy's satirical skewering of manifest destiny, interpreting of the epilogue and the last dance. Also: some general thoughts on tackling our first McCarthy, his idiosyncratic writing style, and the ambiguity around his antagonist's true identity. CHAPTERS (00:00:00) chitter chatter (00:09:08) The Glanton gang’s downfall (00:25:00) The Idiot (00:32:33) Cultural technologies for reducing violence (00:45:33) What makes the Kid different? (01:03:06) Greed, exploitation, and the end of the Wild West (01:13:13) The Bonepickers: the cycle of violence repeats (01:22:12) The last dance: Is the judge a supernatural being? (01:49:40) Summing up and last-minute token criticism WRITE US: We love listener feedback. Send us a note at douevenlit@gmail.com to correct our bad takes, add your own, or just say hi. NEXT ON THE READING LIST: The Nose - Gogol (short story) The Odyssey - Homer (Emily Wilson translation) White Noise - Don DeLillo…
1 Cormac McCarthy's Blood Meridian, part 1: A legion of horribles 1:42:39
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1:42:39Hell aint half full. Hear me. Ye carry war of a madman's making onto a foreign land. Yell wake more than the dogs. Rich is a big McCarthy head. For Benny and Cam, it's their first taste, and we're going straight to the top shelf: the 1985 epic historical novel Blood Meridian ; or, The Evening Redness in the West. In this discussion we cover the first half of the book (chapters 1-12) as a meditation on violence, manifest destiny, self-mythology, and McCarthy's own cunning plot to positioning himself within the literary canon. At the centre of it all there is the judge: a towering, hairless enigma who might be a false god, or a devil... or something even worse. CHAPTERS (00:00:00) quick background (00:06:07) introducing the Kid and the judge 00:12:46) why did Captain White’s expedition fail so badly? (00:24:54) Comanche war party run-on sentence fever dream (00:34:12) Sometime come the mother, sometime come the wolf (00:42:00) the strangely egalitarian Glanton Gang (00:56:13) Judge Holden piss-infused gunpowder volcano massacre (01:15:19) Decoding the story of the harness-maker and the traveller (01:28:01) Goodhart’s law in scalp-hunting bounties (01:34:48) First impressions of McCarthy (01:37:32) Listener mail: Knausgaard and autofiction rant revisited WRITE US: We love listener feedback. Send us a note at douevenlit@gmail.com to correct our bad takes, add your own, or just say hi. NEXT ON THE READING LIST: The Odyssey - Homer (Emily Wilson translation)…
1 DYEL Christmas party: The most beloved and hated books of 2024 1:22:45
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1:22:45A bit of festive fun looking back on the year that was. Which books have stayed with us? Which were forgettable? What was the best reading/watching we did outside of book club? What did we learn about podcasting? Are we gonna keep posting this stuff in public? and MORE CHAPTERS (00:00:00) festive chit chat (00:07:35) Revealing our favourite books of the year 00:34:13) Biggest STINKER of the year (00:48:25) Our #1 (non-book club) book/essay/blog (00:59:39) Favourite film or TV (01:10:05) Navel-gazing on the book club meta and podcasting lessons learned WRITE US: We love listener feedback. Send us a note at douevenlit@gmail.com to correct our bad takes, add your own, or just say hi. NEXT ON THE READING LIST: Blood Meridian - Cormac McCarthy The Odyssey - Homer (Emily Wilson translation)…
1 The Moviegoer: In which we escape a deep existential malaise 1:04:55
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1:04:55A paradox: how can an author—say, Walker Percy—get the reader to care about a protagonist—say, Binx Bolling—who is stuck in a malaise and doesn't himself particularly care about anything? A corollary: how can a book club have an engaging discussion when they don't particularly care about said book and said protagonist? Honestly you might as well skip the first 10 minutes or so in which we half-assedly try to talk about the actual plot elements. Luckily Cam saves the day with an impromptu lecture on Kierkegaard and we get to yapping about the meaning of life instead: Is it patronising to claim that everyone is living in a state of despair? Is self-gratification and individualism actually bad? What are the main avenues for having a meaningful life? How does society stigmatise or incentivise meaning-making activities? Has the existentialist project more or less been a success? Which of Popper's three worlds does 'meaning' fall into? I can't be bothered doing chapter markers for this one so just take a leap of faith you cowards WRITE US: We love listener feedback. Send us a note at douevenlit@gmail.com to correct our bad takes, add your own, or just say hi. NEXT ON THE READING LIST: Blood Meridian - Cormac McCarthy The Odyssey - Homer (Emily Wilson translation)…
1 Banned books: Vladimir Nabokov's infamous Lolita 1:24:42
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1:24:42“Lolita, light of my life, fire of my loins. My sin, my soul... You can always count on a murderer for a fancy prose style.” Nabokov had a lot of trouble getting anyone to publish a story about a grown man falling in love with a 12 year old. After multiple bans and scandals, Lolita caught fire in America, and is now considered perhaps his greatest work (altho you still cop some dodgy glances reading it on the train). The great central tension is between Humbert Humbert the monster and HH the sensitive and sympathetic aesthete. How reliable is HH as a narrator? Is he deluding himself? Did he successfully hoodwink certain critics? Is he truly capable of love and redemption, or is everything staged for effect? On the murder mystery: is HH really any better than his nemesis Clare Quilty? What's the significance of trying to kill one's shadow? Did we catch Quilty's lurking presence throughout these pages? Does he even exist at all? What's the message of this story? On didactic vs aesthetic fiction, whether this book is meant to be moralising, Nabokov's instructions to the reader, and an overall vibe check on how we feel about his tricks after reading both Pale Fire and Lolita . CHAPTERS (00:00:00) life imitates art (00:04:11) the two faces of Humbert Humbert 00:13:42) is HH an unreliable narrator? (00:26:32) Trying to distinguish between love and lust (00:36:50) Sympathy for the pedo (00:40:32) the questionable reality of Clare Quilty (01:04:49) Quilty vs HH (01:08:45) Does Lolita have a moral? (death of the author redux) (01:14:22) comparison to Pale Fire and Nabokov vibe check WRITE US: We love to share listener feedback. Send us a note at douevenlit@gmail.com to correct our bad takes, add your own, or just say hi. NEXT ON THE READING LIST: The Moviegoer - Walker Percy…
1 Karl Ove Knausgaard's My Struggle: Autofiction and autofellation 43:36
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43:36These days every bestselling author writes novels about how their dad was too strict and they got bullied for bringing stinky indian food to school etc. But Karl Ove Knausgaard walked so millennial narcissists could run. This week we get absorbed in part 1 of his epic six-part autobiographical novel My Struggle, published in 2009. The big central question: what makes a book which spends five pages describing the author making a cup of coffee so good? The prose is nice but prosaic, there are few major insights, and no plot beats or narrative tension. But we (mostly) agree that it is in fact a good or even great book. On the performance art aspect to Knausgaard's project, the barriers to being truly sincere and honest, pathological self-awareness, why early memories are so often dominated by shame, nostalgia for premature ejaculation, and MORE. CHAPTERS (00:00:00) intro (00:00:56) patient zero for the autofiction disease 00:11:40) My Struggle as performance art (00:20:20) Shame and pathological self-consciousness (00:30:38) what is it exactly that makes Knausgaard so good? (00:40:12) next book announcement WRITE US: We love to share listener feedback on the pod, so send us a note at douevenlit@gmail.com to correct our bad takes or add your own or just say hi. NEXT ON THE READING LIST: Lolita - Nabokov The Moviegoer - Walker Percy…
1 Ted Chiang's Understand: Intelligence explosions and AI doom 1:22:53
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1:22:53Yeah, it's big brain time. This week we're reading 'Understand' from Ted Chiang's 2002 collection Stories of Your Life and Others. what is the ceiling on human intelligence? can we jooce it up? did Chiang inspire the whole AI doomer movement? would superintelligence beings have to annihilate each other instead of cooperating? Do we buy the orthogonality thesis? Also: introducing David Deutsch's 'universal explainer' theory of intelligence, which gives radically different answers to all of the above. Is the dumbest guy you know really capable of making novel advances in quantum physics? The answer may surprise you. On abstractions and 'chunking': how important is working memory? Should we expect our high-level explanations to converge on a theory of everything? Would super-smart people really communicate in short series of grunts? Could they hack their own autonomic nervous systems or incept a linguistic killshot? tl;dr: gestalt gestalt gestalt gestalt gestalt gestalt. gestalt gestalt? gestalt gestalt, gestalt. CHAPTERS (00:00:00) intro and synopsis (00:05:13) Can you jooce up human intelligence 00:14:53) How would super-smart people communicate? (00:22:01) ’chunking’ abstractions towards a theory of everything (00:39:23) behavioral priming gone WILD (Greco vs Reynolds grunt battle) (00:51:23) why can’t we all just get along?? (00:55:40) reconciling David Deutsch’s ’universal explainer’ theory with IQ (01:16:42) unresolved AI safety concerns SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS: We love to share listener feedback on the pod, so send us a note at douevenlit@gmail.com to correct our bad takes or share your own or just say hello. NEXT ON THE READING LIST: My Struggle, volume 1 - Karl Ove Knausgaard Lolita - Nabokov The Moviegoer - Walker Percy…
1 Chekhov urself before u wreck-ov urself (The Little Trilogy) 1:44:33
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1:44:33This week we're reading three of Anton Chekhov's most beloved short stories: The Man in the Case, Gooseberries, and About Love ( The Little Trilogy , 1898). We get a minor assist from George Saunders and his fantastic book A Swim in the Pond in the Rain but have no shortage of stuff to discuss. Talking big 5 personality traits, the degree to which people oppress themselves, why Rich fell out of love with the early retirement movement, whether it's OK to be happy in a world full of suffering, and if having to settle in romantic relationships is antithetical to true love. Also: Cam takes a controversial and brave stance against home-wreckers. CHAPTERS (00:00:00) intro (00:01:54) ’The Man in the Case’ synopsis 00:07:12) Are some personality types just better than others? (00:12:52) Belyakov fumbles the bag with Varenka (00:24:07) Is everybody trapped in a case of their own making (00:34:58) Mavra and the tranquil village (00:40:15) Gooseberries synopsis (00:42:30) The pitfalls of the ’early retirement’ movement (00:52:55) theorising on happiness (01:01:57) Ivan the big fat hypocrite (01:07:23) ’About Love’ synopsis (01:11:44) Did Alyohin make the right decision? (01:22:10) Can love by analysed rationally (01:33:49) our favourite story of the trilogy (01:37:59) accessibility of chekhov SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS: We wanna start reading listener feedback out on the pod, so send us a note at douevenlit@gmail.com to correct our bad takes or share your own or just say hi. NEXT ON THE READING LIST: My Struggle, volume 1 - Karl Ove Knausgaard…
1 Ernest Hemingway's A Farewell to Arms: War and love 1:00:49
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1:00:49Hemingway's 1929 semi-autobiographical classic tackles two big timeless themes: love and war. Two out of three of us can relate to the first one, but war feels pretty alien to us. How would the boys do if they were conscripted? What made WWI so uniquely dispiriting? What is it about this novel that so faithfully captures the experience of war? We also talk quite a bit about Hemingway's laconic characters and terse writing style. How representative is this of his broader work? What do we think of the 'iceberg method'? Why did he go with the most depressing possible ending? and MORE CHAPTERS (00:00:00) first reactions and synopsis (00:06:02) Hemingway’s understated style and the ’Iceberg method’ (00:19:10) What made WWI a uniquely dispiriting war? (00:28:35) Catherine and Henry are the same person (00:38:44) downer ending (00:46:45) A catalogue of arbitrary and meaningless death (00:57:34) Final thoughts and next book SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS: We wanna start reading listener feedback out on the pod, so send us a note at douevenlit@gmail.com to correct our bad takes or share your own. NEXT ON THE READING LIST: My Struggle, volume 1 - Karl Ove Knausgaard…
1 Crime and Punishment finale: is Dostoevsky...overrated?? 1:31:50
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1:31:50Not too much plot to cover in parts 5 and 6; mostly we're hashing out our final thoughts on the book and Dostoevsky's legacy. First up is the controversial epilogue. The boys are not sure how believable Rodya's redemption is. It feels kinda cheap? Dostoevsky is not very good at character development but maybe it doesn't matter. Sonya is a perfectly implausible character who exists only as a sort of a prop for Rodya. How on earth does Dosto have a reputation for writing realistic characters? Again, it prob doesn't matter. Svidrigailov sneaks up on us as perhaps the most interesting (or at least the most underrated) character in the book. We talk about the three incredible scenes that bring his journey to an end: kidnapping Donya, the feverish hotel dream, and the dramatic exit. Finally quite a bit of discussion about whether Dostoevsky is actually any good as a thinker. Rich is not sold: the critique of utilitarianism is unfair, blind deference to tradition leaves no room for progress, and God has been pretty neatly replaced by secular humanism. Benny pushes back and adds some nuance to the problem Dosto was trying to describe, and Cam talks about how he still feels the tension between nihilism and common-sense morality. Don't miss the surprise guest appearance from Cam's manager. Is this the week he gets busted? will he live to skive off another day?? Tune in now to find out. CHAPTERS (00:00:00) intriguing and important discussion on different translations (do NOT skip) (00:13:15) Epilogue: Raskolnikov speedruns character development (00:36:03) Sonya character analysis (00:42:21) how realistic are dostoevsky’s characters? (00:49:24) Svidrigailov meets his twisted end (01:06:46) Are dostoevsky’s philosophical ideas actually any good (01:17:26) Commonsense morality, nihilism and metaethics SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS: We wanna start reading listener feedback out on the pod, so send us a note at douevenlit@gmail.com to correct our bad takes or share your own. NEXT ON THE READING LIST: Candide — Voltaire A Farewell to Arms - Ernest Hemingway…
1 Crime and Punishment, part 2: Three extraordinary men 1:09:10
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1:09:10we're just normal men. We're just innocent men! In parts 3 and 4 of Fyodor Dostoevsky's 1866 Crime and Punishment we get a lot more meat on Raskolnikov's 'extraordinary man' thesis. How does it overlap with the concept of the Übermensch in Nietzsche and Hegel? Are we too deeply steeped in Christian morality to become 'extraordinary' without destroying ourselves? We reconsider Raskolnikov, Svidrigailov, and Luzhin through this lens. Plus: cam's obligatory sibling inc*st fantasies, rich tries to give dostoyevsky writing advice, etc CHAPTERS (00:00:00) hangry (00:02:00) the Extraordinary Man thesis (00:06:28) Nietzsche, hegel and the RETVRN to bronze age morality (00:13:35) Can you be an extraordinary man without breaking yourself? (00:23:05) Svidrigailov introduction (00:29:45) What would you do if your best friend killed someone (00:34:32) lil dick Luzhin (00:44:30) Lazarus story (the ultimate flipperoo) (00:49:00) Porfiry’s police procedural: pragmatic pressure or pure punishment? (00:59:32) could this be a shorter book (01:05:33) Listener mail: revisiting Hamlet’s soliloquy SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS: We wanna start reading listener feedback out on the pod, so send us a note at douevenlit@gmail.com to correct our bad takes or share your own. NEXT ON THE READING LIST: Crime and Punishment - parts 5 and 6 Candide — Voltaire A Farewell to Arms - Ernest Hemingway…
1 Crime and Punishment, part 1: Mister Schizo and the First Trad 1:27:10
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1:27:10Cracking into the first two parts of Dostoevsky's 1866 classic Crime and Punishment. The first surprising thing is that this is a conservative/reactionary book: it mocks the fancy new ideas of the youth, the spirit of revolution, naive utilitarianism, etc. Jordan Peterson laps this shit up. But did the moral panic over materialism hold up? Does modern society in any way compare with the turmoil of Dostoevsky's Russia, or are we at the end of history? How relevant are Dostoevsky's concerns today? We argue quite a bit about that but we're more aligned on the brilliance of Dostoevsky as psychologist, and especially the character of Rodya 'mister schiz' Raskolnikov: what causes his mind to fracture so spectacularly? What motivates him to do the deed? why does Rich kinda relate to him? plus a masterclass on freestyle rap. and much more CHAPTERS (00:00:00) opening rap (00:04:23) history class with professor chugg (00:12:13) Part 1 summary and reactions (00:23:25) what motivates Rodya ’ mister schizo’ Raskolnikov? (00:28:50) Dosto subtweets bentham and SBF (00:40:46) Part 2 summary (00:52:00) Parallels between Raskolnikov and Marmeladov (00:56:08) Rodya’s amorality (01:05:02) Arguing whether we live in tumultuous times comparable to Dosto’s era (01:14:05) Moral panic over materialism (01:21:45) Rodya’s altruism SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS: We wanna start reading listener feedback out on the pod, so send us a note at douevenlit@gmail.com to correct our bad takes or share your own. NEXT ON THE READING LIST: Crime and Punishment - parts 3 and 4, then parts 5 and 6 Candide, by Voltaire…
1 Susanna Clarke's Piranesi: Gaslight gatekeep girlboss 1:25:36
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1:25:36The beauty of this book is immeasurable, and its kindness is infinite. We all love Susanna Clarke's 2012 metaphysical thriller, which feels like a mashup of Borges/C.S. Lewis/Gone Girl. Venture deeper into the labyrinth with us: Piranesi as amateur scientist: On indigenous knowledge, the dangers of naïve empiricism, achieving dominion over nature, and whether the Other kind of had a point. Metaphysics of the House: Are abstractions real, revisiting Plato's world of perfect forms, and whether the world is fundamentally Good. Identity and mental illness: The illusion of stable personhood over time, repressed memories as trauma response, and how a person with dementia or psychosis can maintain a consistent internal worldview. CHAPTERS (00:00:00) meet the Beloved Child of the House (00:09:55) Piranesi as amateur scientist (00:19:48) metaphysics of the House and Plato’s theory of forms (00:38:13) C.S. Lewis allusions (00:41:21) The BIG REVEAL (spoilers) (00:46:30) The illusion of stable personhood (00:55:02) Internal consistency of dementia or psychosis patients (01:02:30) Piranesi’s escape and reintegration (01:09:11) Is the world (or the House) fundamentally Good? SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS: We wanna start reading listener feedback out on the pod, so send us a note at douevenlit@gmail.com to correct our bad takes or share your own. NEXT ON THE READING LIST: Crime and Punishment - Dostoyevsky (reading in three parts over six weeks)…
1 The Tragedy of Hamlet: The O.G. annoying theatre kid 1:10:14
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1:10:14holy shit this was hard. Our first attempt at shakespeare and it was a doozy! Rich struggled through the original text and only had the vaguest idea what was going on. Cam watched every single movie adaptation and studied for two weeks but still got casually mogged by his girlfriend. By the time we got done with the discussion we were all actually hyped to read more shakespeare so something must have gone right. Covering such topics as: The impenetrability of Shakespearean english, whether it's better to read modern translations or the original text, our favourite lines and soliloquies, shitting on the Freudian reading, connections to David Foster Wallace's Infinite Jest, and Hamlet as the archetypal annoying theatre kid. CHAPTERS (00:00:00) intro (00:03:53) ye olde Shakesperean english vs modern translations (00:14:52) Cam’s film corner segment (00:18:07) Hamlet’s pathological indecisiveness (00:23:27) To be, or not to be? (00:25:34) shitting on the Freudian/oedipal reading (00:32:12) Ophelia and Gertrude’s motivations (00:34:06) protestant heaven loophole (00:42:15) favourite lines and famous quotes (00:45:05) Influence on DFW and other theatre kids (00:48:12) There is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so (00:51:44) we rescue the freudian/oedipal reading! (00:53:08) what does the clusterfuck of an ending signify (00:58:07) will we engage with W. Shakespeare again in future (01:03:37) Terrence Howard penis size analysis SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS: THE ADDRESS I SAID IN THE RECORDING IS WRONG! it has since been changed to douevenlit@gmail.com NEXT ON THE READING LIST: Piranesi - Susanna Clarke Crime and Punishment - Dostoyevsky…
1 Albert Camus' The Fall: Signalling, scrupulosity, and pathological self-awareness 1:44:14
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1:44:14This one starts slow but it ends up being one of my favourite book clubs ever. Camus' last finished novel was The Fall (1956). It has a lot of personal resonance for Rich and the other boys loved it too. Loss of innocence: how much of our behaviour comes down to signalling? Is there such a thing as genuine altruism? Is it dangerous to learn about this stuff? Was David Foster Wallace's 'new sincerity' idea doomed from the outset? Escaping the double bind: Choosing which status games to play, finding solace in sports and other explicit games, why hedonism doesn't work, moving awareness away from the self and towards others, dissolving the problem of a meaningless universe. Performative castigation: Is Jean-Baptiste's judge-penitent stance actually coherent? The pitfalls of woke ideology, recursive traps of judging people, and why virtue signalling is good, actually. Religious interpretations: The biblical fall, Jean-Baptiste as antichrist, the death of God, and organised religion as laundering scheme. CHAPTERS (00:00:00) worst opening segue competition (00:03:25) Is the pre-fall Jean-Baptiste a virtuous person? (00:07:22) Some personal reflections 00:17:10) Signalling theory and loss of innocence (00:30:19) How to cope with a bottomless pit of suffering (00:37:17) David Foster Wallace and the curse of pathological self-awareness (00:51:41) Judging the judge-penitent: has Jean-Baptiste really solved his problem? (01:02:48) Pro and anti-religious interpretations (01:14:24) Free will and (dis)continuity of personal identity (01:26:50) Strategies for escaping from the spiral of self-awareness (01:32:20) Is the idea of a meaningless universe a reductionist mistake? SEND US MAIL: douevenlit@gmail.com NEXT ON THE READING LIST: Hamlet - Shakespeare Piranesi - Susanna Clarke Crime and Punishment - Dostoyevsky…
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