最高の Morning Mama ポッドキャスト (2024)

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Episode 13: Healing and Overcoming Domestic Violence: A Conversation with Dr. Amelia Kelley 1:01:39

5d ago1:01:39

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In this powerful episode of Good Morning, Mama, Karla and Chelsea sit down with Dr. Amelia Kelley, an expert in trauma recovery and mental health, to explore the journey of healing from domestic violence. Dr. Kelley offers invaluable insights into the emotional and psychological effects of abuse and shares strategies for finding hope and healing. T…

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抬槓｜#31｜音樂奴隸與怪物 ft. 那那大師 1:15:52

11d ago1:15:52

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你在忙碌的生活中，找不到時間閱讀？前往台灣最受歡迎的 Podcast 說書節目「下一本讀什麼」，每週認識兩本好書，快速吸收好書精華。主題包含個人成長、投資理財、商業職場。一起透過閱讀，成為更好的自己。 https://fstry.pse.is/6hdhm7 —— 以上為 Firstory Podcast 廣告 —— #抬槓一名正能量保險員離職後成台灣骨灰網紅霸佔華語音樂節目多年如今卸下音樂奴隸身份來與怪物們促膝長談特別感謝：那那大師購票連結：https://mmmw.pse.is/nnmt 周邊預購：https://mmmw.pse.is/nnmt-p - ㊮贊助口愛ㄉ拎娘 (ˇωˇ人) https://mmmw.pse.is/Funds ㊯哪裡可以聽拎娘 (๑ơ ₃ ơ)…

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Episode12: Trusting God's Plan: A Heart-to-Heart with Karissa Collins from @thecollinskids 1:05:54

12d ago1:05:54

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In this Good Morning, Mama episode, Karla and Chelsea chat with Karissa Collins from @thecollinskids about embracing God's plan in motherhood and family life. Karissa shares her journey of raising a large family, finding strength in faith, and living with purpose. Don't miss this uplifting and faith-filled conversation full of wisdom, encouragement…

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Episode 11: The Power of Purpose-Driven Business: Aligning Social Impact with Family Values 35:16

19d ago35:16

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In this episode of Good Morning, Mama, Karla and Chelsea dive into the heart of purpose-driven businesses, exploring how starting ventures with a social impact focus, like Kaia and Kash, can align perfectly with family values. Get the inside scoop on how Abundant Management is paving the way for creators and influencers to grow their brands while s…

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Episode 10: the Fourth Trimester: Real Talk for New Moms 47:21

26d ago47:21

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In this episode of Good Morning, Mama, Karla and Chelsea dive into the "fourth trimester," the crucial postpartum period after giving birth. They discuss the physical, emotional, and mental challenges new moms face, sharing personal experiences and practical tips for navigating this transformative time. From healing and self-care to bonding with yo…

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288. 4 Keys to Have Peace When it Feels like it's All Falling Apart and the Overwhelm Takes Over as a Mom. 34:02

1M ago34:02

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Ever hit those seasons where it's hard to breathe? Where it feels like there is so much happening you aren't sure you are going to make it through? I get it and that's what I have been living the past few weeks. Today I unpack what God has been speaking to me and I hope it encourages you! Here's the sermon from my pastor that inspired much of this …

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Episode 9: Blending Love: Navigating Life in a Blended Family 31:50

1M ago31:50

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In this heartfelt episode of Good Morning, Mama, Karla and Chelsea dive into the unique dynamics of blended families. Chelsea shares her personal experiences of merging two families into one, the joys and challenges that come with it, and how she’s built strong, meaningful relationships in her new family structure. From balancing co-parenting to cr…

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Episode 8: Through Their Eyes: A Teen and a Mother's Perspective on Growing Up/Raising Teens Today 30:39

1M ago30:39

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In this special episode of Good Morning, Mama, Karla sits down with her 16-year-old daughter, Jenna, for an open and honest conversation about what it's like being a teen in today’s world. They dive into the pressures of social media, school, friendships, and growing independence, while also exploring the unique challenges that come with parenting …

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Episode 7: Q & A with Karla and Chelsea 42:27

2M ago42:27

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Wake up and join Karla and Chelsea for a fresh start to your day with Good Morning, Mama—the podcast where two moms answer your most pressing questions. From parenting tips and family life hacks to balancing it all, we’re here to chat, laugh, and share real-life experiences. Whether you’re juggling a busy household or just looking for a bit of enco…

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Episode 6: Embracing Traditional Roles in Modern Society 51:37

2M ago51:37

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Explore how Karla and Chelsea balance traditional family roles with personal goals. Understand the joys and challenges of balancing these goals while prioritizing home and family.

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287. How to Have a Great Relationship with Your Kids Without Any Extra Time in Your Day. Back to School in Peace, Part 2. 41:52

2M ago41:52

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As our kids go back to school, it is so easy to get lost in the fast paced days and lose our peace and lose our kids along with it. Today we talk about what how exactly to maintain peace in our homes and our relationships in this season and it starts with maintaining connection. Without a seamless connection with our kids we are all missing out wha…

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286. How to Go Back to School in Peace! This One Thing is Essential to Stay Connected to Your Kids. Part 1. 33:23

2M ago33:23

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As our kids go back to school, it is so easy to get lost in the fast paced days and lose our peace and lose our kids along with it. Today we talk about what how exactly to maintain peace in our homes and our relationships in this season and it starts with maintaining connection. Without a seamless connection with our kids we are all missing out wha…

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Episode 5: Homesteading 101: Tips and Tricks for Modern Families 51:13

2M ago51:13

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Join Karla and Chelsea as they share their journey into homesteading. Learn practical tips for starting and maintaining a homestead while balancing family life.

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285. The Key to a Happy Life. 6 Mindset Essentials to Staying in a Place of Peace as a Mom. 33:10

2M ago33:10

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Are you constantly on edge, rushing to the next thing or frustrated at something? I know mom life can easily leave us in that place and you are far from alone. But we know that when we live in that place of chaos everyone around us can feel it. Today we dive into what it means to leave a legacy of peace and how to actually do that. I hope this enco…

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284. What Legacy are You Leaving? How to Create a Legacy of Peace as a Mom. 33:56

2M ago33:56

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Are you constantly on edge, rushing to the next thing or frustrated at something? I know mom life can easily leave us in that place and you are far from alone. But we know that when we live in that place of chaos everyone around us can feel it. Today we dive into what it means to leave a legacy of peace and how to actually do that. I hope this enco…

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抬槓｜#30｜變裝皇后幹直男？ ft. 薔薇 42:52

2M ago42:52

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#抬槓不男不女變變變變成一條產業鏈美麗動人又下賤變裝皇后來相見特別感謝：薔葳、招弟購票連結：https://mmmw.pse.is/tde #灣島 #阮兜 #TaiwanDragExcellence - ㊮贊助口愛ㄉ拎娘 (ˇωˇ人) https://mmmw.pse.is/Funds ㊯哪裡可以聽拎娘 (๑ơ ₃ ơ)つ https://portaly.cc/morningmamawee - (00:00:00) 黑道保護同性戀？ (00:06:40) 直男喜被變裝皇后幹？ (00:14:59) 皇后的職涯路徑？ (00:20:08) 從小就被性騷擾？ (00:23:29) 變裝擊敗容貌焦慮 (00:24:49) 台灣不男不女超厲害？ (00:26:52) 本土皇后的大成發…

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283. Does a Life of Peace Mean I Won't Hurt Anymore? Lessons and Fruit of 3 Years of Morning Mama. Part 2. 33:56

2M ago33:56

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WELCOME TO THE REFRESHED AND RENEWED MORNING MAMA! Go check out our brand new website! Today we celebrate 3 years of Morning Mama and I unpack all that God has taught me on this incredible adventure. Whatever that next step that God has placed before you that feels a little bit scary, I hope that this encourages you to take the leap! Thank you fait…

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Episode 4: Hospital Day - Preparing for Birth and Managing the Experience 46:31

2M ago46:31

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Mastering Hospital Births: Tips from Experienced Moms Get tips from Karla and Chelsea on preparing for hospital births. Learn how to manage the experience smoothly, from pre-birth preparations to handling hospital stays. link to hospital checklist: https://thebradleybunchstore.etsy.com/listing/1767044801…

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282. Celebrating RELAUNCH! What Happens When You Say "Yes" to God. The Fruit and Lessons of 3 Years of Morning Mama. 32:58

2M ago32:58

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WELCOME TO THE REFRESHED AND RENEWED MORNING MAMA! Go check out our brand new website! Today we celebrate 3 years of Morning Mama and I unpack all that God has taught me on this incredible adventure. Whatever that next step that God has placed before you that feels a little bit scary, I hope that this encourages you to take the leap! Thank you fait…

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Episode 3: Maintaining Sanity while Pregnant: Navigating the Journey to Motherhood 43:47

2M ago43:47

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Embark on the transformative journey of pregnancy with "Maintaining sanity while pregnant: Navigating the Journey to Motherhood." This episode offers practical advice, current experiences, and personal stories to help you maintain your sanity and well-being. From managing stress and staying healthy to finding joy and balance, this podcast is your c…

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281. How to Holistically Care for Yourself and Communicate Your Needs as a Mom. 39:26

3M ago39:26

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Struggling to be present? It might be because you aren’t caring for yourself in any kind of way that actually fills your body, mind, and spirit (scrolling just doesn’t cut it). Today I dive into some simple ways to get started with caring for yourself and also the important of recognizing and communicating your needs to others. When we actually fil…

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Episode 2: Travel Tips for Families: Navigating the the Globe with Little Explorers 46:46

3M ago46:46

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Navigating the Globe with Little Explorers: Travel Tips for Families In this episode of our podcast, we dive into essential advice for families embarking on travel adventures with children. Whether you're planning a road trip, flying across continents, or exploring new cultures, join us as we discuss practical tips, packing hacks, and strategies to…

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280. Are You Addicted to Your Phone? How Your Phone is Stealing Your Life as a Mom and What Do About it. 37:23

3M ago37:23

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Do you find yourself reaching for your phone... let's face it- ALL DAY LONG? This is the reality for many of us in this day and age but it doesn't have to be! Today we talk about why you keep reaching for it, how it is affecting you, and how to work on stopping it. You are not alone in this struggle and there is hope! Love, Brittany From Pain to Pe…

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Episode 1: Surviving and Thriving as Moms of Many Small Children: Tips and Insights 48:16

3M ago48:16

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Episode 1: Surviving and Thriving as Moms of Many Small Children: Tips and Insights Learn how Karla and Chelsea navigate the challenges of raising many small children. From birth preparations to managing work-life balance, get practical tips and heartfelt advice.

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279. Why You Feel Like You're Failing as a Mom and How to Stop it. 34:07

3M ago34:07

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Do you constantly feel like you are failing your kids? Is it hard to stay present and invested because you feel like your investment never pays off? Motherhood is a LONG journey where there isn't always much to tell us we are making progress or doing a good job. This causes us to end up on couch night after night numbing out our feelings of inadequ…

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星座｜#67｜色穢邊緣人 1:15:42

3M ago1:15:42

1:15:42

#隆星大悅色色是人類拿不掉的本性人都會挑食，人也會挑菜那在情慾上格格不入的人該何去何從呢？ - 💋 https://redino.shop/morningmama ☻ 結帳輸入「MAMA300」現折三百元適用商品：P9、大白鯊、大王魷、大魟魚、初戀之心、海嘯大師、小微醺、初白之心 ☻ 結帳輸入「MAMA200」現折兩百元適用商品：威廉大屌、吸吮大師、夜能共震環、惡魔拉拉、小翅膀、凱莉口紅、精靈之箭、P7、鬼精棒、珍奶妹、雪波跳蛋 ☻ 結帳輸入「MAMA100」全店商品現折一百元 - 特別感謝：紅犀牛 Jessie、伊布 Terry 徵友 IG：@_t3rry_ - ㊯跟拎娘講星座悄悄話 (๑ơ ₃ ơ)つ https://mmmw.pse.is/whisper ㊮贊助口愛ㄉ拎…

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Meet the moms behind the mic: Our journey and what to expect 6:51

3M ago6:51

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Join Karla (@thebradleybunchadventures) and Chelsea (@kaiaandkash) as they introduce themselves and their incredible journeys. Discover what to expect from this podcast, from mommy influencer tips to business insights and lifestyle stories. You will enjoy meeting these two instant best friends and will find yourself laughing, smiling, and ready to …

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278. Ready for Summer to be Over? Use These Questions to Help You Get Excited Again About Being a Mom! 34:39

3M ago34:39

34:39

Are you like me and always dreaming for what is next? Maybe it is because you are a dreamer at heart or maybe it is because the season you are in feels less than desirable. Wherever you find yourself on this spectrum you are called to be fully present and alive in this moment. Today I share how to change your mindset in order to keep your feet plan…

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277. How to Stay Present in a Season You Can’t Wait to be Over as a Mom. 33:40

4M ago33:40

33:40

Are you like me and always dreaming for what is next? Maybe it is because you are a dreamer at heart or maybe it is because the season you are in feels less than desirable. Wherever you find yourself on this spectrum you are called to be fully present and alive in this moment. Today I share how to change your mindset in order to keep your feet plan…

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276. Stuck in Screen Time Struggles? Lean in to Find Out What to Do Instead. 39:03

4M ago39:03

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Are you finding yourself constantly facing tantrums, bad attitudes, and whining anytime screens are involved? Have you struggled to find the right about of screen time and have no idea where to begin with boundaries? Today I share my thoughts on screens and how to find a place of peace in your home with technology. Love, Brittany Doors to the Heale…

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275. How to Actually Enjoy Summer with Your Kids as a Mom. Part 2. 34:02

4M ago34:02

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Are you already wondering how you are going to get through the rest of the summer with your kiddos? Do you dread the next day knowing that you are going to be faced with endless fighting, whining, and mess? Summer doesn’t have to be something negative, in fact I believe it can be an enormous blessing that you all look forward to! Today I unpack the…

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QA｜因為做節目，我接觸了通緝犯 49:25

4M ago49:25

49:25

#週年特輯節目做到跟通緝犯有接觸？我們又真的相信星座嗎？我們是真的快樂活著嗎？這四年的時間，值得嗎？ - ㊮贊助口愛ㄉ拎娘 (ˇωˇ人) https://mmmw.pse.is/Funds ㊯哪裡可以聽拎娘 (๑ơ ₃ ơ)つ https://portaly.cc/morningmamawee - (00:00:00) 主持人跟觀眾都過不好？ (00:02:50) 去中國抓濟公 (00:08:10) 前衛優越仔 / 自由的迷思 (00:13:28) 自我實踐與開心果 (00:22:35) 接觸通緝犯 / 再戰寶可夢 (00:27:25) 無欲又無求 / 苦痛的養分 (00:33:14) 真的相信星座嗎？ (00:36:12) 快樂與活著 (00:42:40) 主持人不合 / 見面…

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274. Dreading Your Kids Being Out of School ALL Summer Long? 2 Keys to Having a Summer You’re Excited For. Part 1. 32:23

4M ago32:23

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Are you already wondering how you are going to get through the rest of the summer with your kiddos? Do you dread the next day knowing that you are going to be faced with endless fighting, whining, and mess? Summer doesn’t have to be something negative, in fact I believe it can be an enormous blessing that you all look forward to! Today I unpack the…

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273. Do You Know How to Fight for Your Family? How the Armor of God Can Prepare You for Battle. Part 2. 35:21

5M ago35:21

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When seasons of suffering come, big or small, we are vulnerable to the enemy’s attacks. Today we talk about how to get you armored up so you can withstand the attacks and come out stronger for it! Get your sword up Mama, and get ready to fight! Love, Brittany Doors to the Healed Mama Academy are open! Join HERE. Also, come say hi and share in our F…

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週年特輯｜愛的發生練習 1:34:28

5M ago1:34:28

1:34:28

#週年特輯當資本社會碰撞儒家文化時縱使我們對愛充滿疑惑世上的愛卻從沒停止過愛的理解、愛的迫降、愛的困惑這都是人類特有的愛的發生練習特別感謝：立丞、Awee、Andy、Frank、隆隆、胡胡、叮叮 - ㊮贊助口愛ㄉ拎娘 (ˇωˇ人) https://mmmw.pse.is/Funds ㊯哪裡可以聽拎娘 (๑ơ ₃ ơ)つ https://portaly.cc/morningmamawee - (00:00:00) 家裡家暴到想自殺 (00:11:20) 友情跟愛情一樣重要 (00:19:37) 第一次害怕失去 (00:26:46) 接受世界善意很重要 (00:42:59) 跟另一半一起當小孩 (00:58:06) 擺脫學店生心態 (01:13:10) 那個憨憨的微笑 #愛 #戀…

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272. How to Use the Armor of God to Protect You and Your Family in Hard Seasons. Part 1. 35:07

5M ago35:07

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When seasons of suffering come, big or small, we are vulnerable to the enemy’s attacks. Today we talk about how to get you armored up so you can withstand the attacks and come out stronger for it! Get your sword up Mama, and get ready to fight! Love, Brittany Doors to the Healed Mama Academy are open! Join HERE. Also, come say hi and share in our F…

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271. 3 Essentials to Releasing Control to God and Walking in Peace No Matter the Season. 34:38

5M ago34:38

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I think most of us can relate to the feeling of being out control. Life is crazy and motherhood just increase that craziness to the umpteenth power! When we feel out of control many of us turn to control in order to try and get through this painful feeling. This might look like it works for a time but ultimately it is only creating more pain in our…

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270. Start Your Day with This One Simple Act and Change How Your Day Goes as a Mom. 35:00

6M ago35:00

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I think most of us can relate to the feeling of being out control. Life is crazy and motherhood just increase that craziness to the umpteenth power! When we feel out of control many of us turn to control in order to try and get through this painful feeling. This might look like it works for a time but ultimately it is only creating more pain in our…

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269. How Can I Trust God When I am Suffering? What it Looks Like to Know that God is Good Even When Life Doesn’t Feel That Way. 32:52

6M ago32:52

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I think most of us can relate to the feeling of being out control. Life is crazy and motherhood just increase that craziness to the umpteenth power! When we feel out of control many of us turn to control in order to try and get through this painful feeling. This might look like it works for a time but ultimately it is only creating more pain in our…

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268. How Your Need to Control is Creating Suffering in Your Life as a Mom. 32:40

6M ago32:40

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I think most of us can relate to the feeling of being out control. Life is crazy and motherhood just increase that craziness to the umpteenth power! When we feel out of control many of us turn to control in order to try and get through this painful feeling. This might look like it works for a time but ultimately it is only creating more pain in our…

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抬槓｜#29｜我天天想自殺 ft. 楊琪 1:00:01

6M ago1:00:01

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#抬槓在逐漸失控的當代社會裡身心疾病幾乎成了顯學到底一顆失衡的心該如何重新振作呢？特別感謝：楊琪姐、BB 影像版本：Vidoe Podcast - ㊮贊助口愛ㄉ拎娘 (ˇωˇ人) https://mmmw.pse.is/Funds ㊯哪裡可以聽拎娘 (๑ơ ₃ ơ)つ https://portaly.cc/morningmamawee - (00:00:00) 憂鬱症多半是善良的 (00:05:02) 吳忠憲的同理心？ (00:06:45) 古代讓憂鬱症嗑藥？ (00:13:30) 父母眼中永遠的孩子 (00:18:13) 誠實沒好處 (00:23:04) 下輩子不會在一起了 (00:24:44) 我在寡婦大院長大 (00:28:07) 被家暴到耳膜破裂？！ (00:31:33…

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267. Sick of Feeling Stuck? Don’t Miss This Crucial Step to Healing as a Mom. Part 2. 38:38

7M ago38:38

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Are you someone that tends to avoid feelings? Maybe it feels overwhelming or maybe you don’t even know where to begin in order to process them. You are definitely not alone in this! Letting ourselves feel hard feelings can be one of the hardest things to do, but it is essential for our healing. Today we dive into 4 steps to let the feelings in and …

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266. 4 Steps to Actually Let Yourself Stop Avoiding and Feel the Feelings. Part 1. 33:38

7M ago33:38

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Are you someone that tends to avoid feelings? Maybe it feels overwhelming or maybe you don’t even know where to begin in order to process them. You are definitely not alone in this! Letting ourselves feel hard feelings can be one of the hardest things to do, but it is essential for our healing. Today we dive into 4 steps to let the feelings in and …

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#87｜旅遊｜台灣魯蛇 & 澳洲打工 ft. 立丞 1:27:20

7M ago1:27:20

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#洨房間去澳洲打工度假真的能賺到人生第一桶金還是只是去澳洲當台勞呢究竟一年兩萬二的台灣青年他們嚮往的是什麼呢？特別感謝：李立丞 aka 哈哈台-毛帽哥 aka 笑著說離婚-小孩 - ㊮贊助口愛ㄉ拎娘 (ˇωˇ人) https://mmmw.pse.is/Funds ㊯哪裡可以聽拎娘 (๑ơ ₃ ơ)つ https://portaly.cc/morningmamawee - (00:00:00) 去澳打的都是台灣 Loser？ (00:06:13) 離開台灣沒有成本？ (00:12:18) 台灣人欺負台灣人？ (00:18:30) 職業是分貴賤的？ (00:25:32) 殺雞殺到會勃起？ (00:36:07) 太平洋島民的當代殖民 (00:44:52) 環境保育與素食 (00:…

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265. How this Dangerous Mentality can Derail your Healing Journey as a Mom. 36:01

7M ago36:01

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We all at times can fall into the trap where we take on a victim mindset and let that derail any kind of progress forward. While you might be a victim in a situation this is not who you are and taking on this mindset will only lead you away from the healing you ultimately desire. Today we dive into how to get out of this destructive mindset and ste…

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264. Is Avoidance Your Go To For Hard Things? How to Find the Courage to Heal. 36:22

7M ago36:22

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One of the ways many of us cope with pain is to avoid it. We give a myriad of reasons to justify this but regardless of your reason it lands us in the same place- we don’t deal with what is there and it continue to haunt us. Maybe we have convinced ourself that it’s not affecting us, but the truth is there’s no way around facing it fully if you wan…

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星座｜#66｜注定一生治癒童年？ 1:10:54

7M ago1:10:54

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#隆星大悅心理學家阿德勒曾說幸福的人一生被童年治癒不幸的人一生都在治癒童年原生家庭的後遺症，究竟能多嚴重？我們有辦法，逃離這人類的宿命嗎？ - ㊯跟拎娘講星座悄悄話 (๑ơ ₃ ơ)つ https://mmmw.pse.is/whisper ㊮贊助口愛ㄉ拎娘 (ˇωˇ人) https://mmmw.pse.is/Funds - (00:00:00) 上升星座看童年 (00:03:28) 不想愛上我的家人 (00:14:16) 步上父母的後塵？ (00:20:35) 被忽略的內在小孩 (00:32:11) 這是一個不講理的社會 (00:34:35) 那些獨立的同學 (00:38:19) 我的爸爸是智障 (00:45:42) 是責任還是愛？ (00:50:49) 長得朦朧美 (00…

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263. Do You Need Therapy? What You Need to Know to Find a Great Therapist! 41:37

7M ago41:37

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In the midst of a season of suffering we often need to bring in some professional help to guide us in navigating that pain we are in. This process can feel daunting and be frustrating so it is easy to avoid it or give up. Today I talk through what different kinds of help exist and how to find the right person. I also give you some tips for navigati…

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262. The Number One Way You are Sabotaging Your Healing Process and Keeping Yourself Stuck in Pain. 36:58

8M ago36:58

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Are you someone that likes to look strong? That if you’re struggling you just suck it up and figure you will be fine? I get it, I so often want to hide the hard feelings I’m having and think I can just get through it on my own. The thing is, you might be able to make it, but your healing is going to be harder and take longer. God made us for commun…

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