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Is it Good to Speak of Higher Consciousness? with Fr. Richard Rohr
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In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we pull from the archive to listen to a conference talk by Fr. Richard Rohr in 2006. Father Richard, a Franciscan friar and ecumenical teacher, talks in his endnote about the transformational work of the Enneagram and the notion of higher consciousness. He explores if the Enneagram…
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In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we continue listening to the talk by Dr. Dan Siegel and the late Dr. David Daniels about attachment theory–the importance of seeking closeness between infants and their parents–in the Enneagram. They speak to a group of parents and have them describe each Enneagram type’s parenting…
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In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we pull from the archives and listen to a talk from 2005 by Dr. Dan Siegel and the late Dr. David Daniels about the attachment theory in the Enneagram. Attachment theory is the importance of seeking closeness to another human, in this case, the early relationships between infants a…
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The Psychic Structures with Russ Hudson and Don Richard Riso (Part 2)
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In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we continue the talk by Russ Hudson and the late Don Richard Riso about psychic structures from the IEA Global Conference in 1994. Psychic structures are the schematic models that help us visualize the dynamics for each Enneagram type, and Russ and Don use Enneagram Types Six and N…
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The Psychic Structures with Russ Hudson and Don Richard Riso (Part 1)
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In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we dig into the archives and present a talk by Russ Hudson and the late Don Richard Riso from the first IEA Global Conference in 1994. With the theme for this year’s conference being “Honoring Pioneers and Future Frontiers,” we hear from some of the founders as they discuss psychic…
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In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, Adelaida Harrison, Seth "Creek" Creekmore, Milton Stewart and Patrick Simonsen talk about the 2025 IEA Global Conference, which will take place July 25-27 in Minneapolis, Minnesota. Milton, Conference Chair, previews what to expect as IEA celebrates 30 years with this year’s theme,…
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The Role of the Enneagram in Business with Karl Hebenstreit
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In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, Patrick Simonsen, from IEA Denmark, speaks with Karl Hebenstreit, an executive coach, author, speaker, leadership/team/organization development consultant with more than 25 years of experience. Karl talks about his books, starting with his most recent, Explicit Expectations: The Es…
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A Tool for Growth with Sandra Maitri (Part 2)
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In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we share the second part of Sandra Maitri’s talk from 2017 about using the Enneagram as a tool for growth. Sandra talks more in depth about the practice of inquiry to question our basic assumptions for each Enneagram type. Each Enneagram type has fundamental qualities and reactive …
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A Tool for Growth with Sandra Maitri (Part 1)
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In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we pull from our 2017 archives to feature a talk by Sandra Maitri about the history of the Enneagram and how to understand the Enneagram as a tool for growth that describes a pattern our consciousness takes. In this first part of her talk, Sandra talks about her experience with the…
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The Centers of Intelligence with Leslie Hershberger (Part 2)
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In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we present the second half of Leslie Hershberger’s presentation on her approach to the centers. She shares an excerpt from a panel that explores the heart center and its core function of doing as well as discusses the body center and its dominant function of feelings. She also give…
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The Centers of Intelligence with Leslie Hershberger (Part 1)
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In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we take a break from our usual content and share some archival discussions from conferences and what we think is a great fit. This week is the first part of Leslie Hershberger’s presentation on her unique approach to the centers. She walks us through her research project that studi…
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20: Sparks of Great Ideas and Innovations with Milton Stewart
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In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we speak with Milton Stewart, founder of Kaizen Careers, Coaching and Consulting LLC and creator of the podcast "Do It For the Gram: An Enneagram Podcast." As a member of the IEA Global Board of Directors, Milton shares his thoughts on the IEA Conference compared to previous years,…
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19: What I Wish People Would Have Told Me with Vanessa Fernandez
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In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we speak with Vanessa Fernandez, a coach and somatic practitioner who explores the intersections of identity in relation to Enneagram work. She explores the things that no one tells you when you start doing this Enneagram work and some of the support that can help as you are faced …
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18: The 12-Steps of Recovery and the Enneagram with Anne Geary
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In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we speak with Anne Geary, founder of The Enneagram Approach. Anne explains her unique approach of combining the powerful tool of the Enneagram map with the pragmatic process of the 12-Steps of Recovery. She shares her personal story of recovery that led her to this work and how thi…
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17: The Intersection of Improvisation and the Enneagram
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In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we speak with Elisabeth Wurm, a theater director and Enneagram teacher from St. Louis. Elisabeth discusses the overlap between improv and the Enneagram as they are both ego work. Each Enneagram type has a false personality, or ego, that will try to get in the way, and Elisabeth sha…
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16: Stepping into Intimate Places with Rev. Nhien Vuong
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In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we speak with Rev. Nhien Vuong, an Enneagram thought leader, spiritual mentor, and founder of Evolving Enneagram, a community-centered organization whose mission is to transform human ecosystems around the globe using a contemplative, wholeness-based approach to our individual and …
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15: Exploring the Enneagram Through Nature with Stephanie J. Spencer
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In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we speak with Stephanie J. Spencer, an executive coach and Enneagram guide. Stephanie talks about her story with the Enneagram and what inspired her to explore it through the heart rather than the mind. Using imagery, she shares how nature is grounding for her and can help us see o…
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14: Having Kind Conversations with Dr. Deborah Egerton and Dr. Robert Holden
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In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we speak with Dr. Deborah Egerton and Dr. Robert Holden, both also known as Dr. E and Dr. R respectively, about their friendship and the idea work they collaborate through the Enneagram. They also talk about coming to a place of understanding to bring us back to love. This can be a…
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13: Revisiting Ego & Essence with Russ Hudson & Mario Sikora (Part 2) Re: Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast
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Here’s Part 2 of Revisiting Ego & Essence. In this episode we continue to have a deep and meaningful conversation with enneagram legends Russ Hudson and Mario Sikora on these often used, often misunderstood concepts. Lee Fields joins the Fathoms crew for this conversation, which always makes us better. [2:00] How can we move forward with these term…
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12: Revisiting Ego & Essence with Russ Hudson & Mario Sikora (Part 1) Re: Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast
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Today we have the pleasure of reposting an episode from our friends from the Fathoms podcast. The Fathoms crew sat down at the 2023 IEA conference to have a deep and meaningful conversation with enneagram legends Russ Hudson and Mario Sikora on the often used and often misunderstood concepts, Ego and Essence. Joining the Fathoms crew is, Lee Fields…
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11: The Academy Study of the Enneagram with Dr. Jerome Wagner
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In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we speak with Dr. Jerome “Jerry” Wagner, a clinical psychologist, psychotherapist, supervisor, consultant in private practice, and emeritus faculty member in the Department of Psychology and Institute of Pastoral Studies at Loyola University, Chicago. Dr. Wagner shares his backgrou…
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10: Using the Foundational Values of the Enneagram to Undo Racism with Chelsea Forbrook
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In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we speak with Chelsea Forbrook, an Enneagram educator, coach and spiritual director. Chelsea talks about the topic she’s presented at the IEA conference with Milton Stewart: igniting passion to undo racism by doing an Enneagram study on whiteness and white culture. They discuss how…
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9: Integrating inclusion into Enneagram work with Jessica Denise Dickson
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In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we speak with Jessica Denise Dickson, a life empowerment coach who teaches and coaches for the reclamation of full humanity through the intersections of the Enneagram, antiracism, and embodiment. Jessica discusses her talk with Vanessa Fernandez that explored the landscape and cult…
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8: The Deep Emotional Work of Clear Thinking with Mario Sikora and María José Munita
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In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we speak with Mario Sikora and María José Munita on how to use the framework of clear thinking with the Enneagram. They discuss why we should think through the logical steps and effective remedies to address our emotions and feelings and the tools to discern what is true and what i…
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7: The State of the Enneagram, and its Future with Russ Hudson
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In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we speak with Russ Hudson, one of the world's leading scholars and teachers on the Enneagram. Russ discusses the current state of the Enneagram. With a new year approaching, he shares what he thinks are good next steps for the community and his hope for the next generation of Ennea…
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6: Engaging the body to help us heal with Marion Gilbert
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In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we speak with Marion Gilbert about her work with the somatic Enneagram that helps us understand the sensations that go through our bodies. Marion discusses how engaging with our bodies can help us heal and she shares why her work is so important to the Enneagram community now. Conn…
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5: Trauma and Enneagram-informed awareness with Sharon Ball & Renée Siegel
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In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we speak with Sharon K. Ball and Renée Siegel, authors of “Reclaiming YOU: Using the Enneagram to Move from Trauma to Resilience,” about trauma and Enneagram-formed awareness. When someone goes through a traumatic experience, they tend to turn to a safe person, also known as a gate…
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4: Using the Enneagram to Inspire Transformation on Both Sides of the Bars with Enneagram Prison Project
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In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we speak with Susan Olesek, founder of the Enneagram Prison Project (EPP), and ambassadors Dustin Baldwin, Jeff Limon and Alex Senegal. They discuss EPP’s mission to help those in jails and prisons use the Enneagram to inspire transformation on both sides of the bars. They share wh…
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3: Object Relations and the Enneagram Belinda Gore
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In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we speak with Belinda Gore, an author, teacher and Enneagram presenter at this year’s conference. Belinda shares how she came into the Enneagram community and how Object Relations interacts with the Enneagram. She also talks about her recent book, Finding Freedom: Understanding Our…
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2: Aephoria & Teaching the Enneagram in South Africa
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In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, Milton Stewart speaks with Lucille Greeff from Aephoria, who is the honored podcast room sponsor for this years’ IEA conference. Lucille shares what she does and the work they do at Aephoria. She also discusses how they connect to the Enneagram world within South Africa. “This is o…
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1: Welcome Your 2023 IEA Global Conference Podcast Hosts!
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In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, Seth “Creek” Creekmore is joined by his Fathoms podcast co-hosts, Seth Abram, Drew Moser and Lindsey Marks along with Lee Fields and Milton Stewart to celebrate Fathoms’ 100th episode. The Fathoms hosts are also partnering with IEA as temporary hosts of this podcast for this year’s…
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Enneagram podcast hosts, Milton Stewart, Sarajane Case, Micky ScottBey Jones, Seth “Creek” Creekmore, come together in this debut episode of the IEA podcast that will highlight the authors, teachers and topics at the upcoming IEA Global Conference in July. They share their Enneagram origin stories and what to expect at the conference. They also sha…
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