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Some Work, All Play

David Roche and Megan Roche

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Five to ten topics, sometimes about running, with lots of love and enthusiasm and science. We dig deep into training, races, studies, pop culture, and much more! With Megan Roche, M.D. and David Roche!
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The Trailhead

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Buzz Burrell and Zoë Rom team up to bring you a lively mix of trail topics, stories and real runner questions. Whether you’re an experienced ultrarunner or newly “trail curious” and just getting started in the sport, start your run with UltraSignUp…and meet us at The Trailhead!
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The Drop

Believe in the Run

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A running podcast from Believe in the Run, The Drop is brought to you by hosts Thomas Neuberger, Robbe Reddinger, and Meaghan Murray. But this isn't your typical running podcast– we'll talk about running (of course), but also discuss a wide range of topics, from pop culture to pigeons (not real) to picking up trash here in Baltimore. We also interview elite athletes, industry insiders, musicians, coaches, and more. Follow along as we also discuss our own running highs and lows, as well as ou ...
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Delivering in-depth conversations with interesting characters from the world of outdoor sports, the Salomon Après-Hour Podcast is brought to you by Salomon, the brand that encourages and enables people to play outside.
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No matter what his Wikipedia entry says, everyone in the world knows that Kilian Jornet is the greatest. We were so lucky to interview this legend about all his life's adventures, including his most recent feat with the Alpine Connections, in which he traversed all 82 peaks of 4,000 meters or more in the Alps, doing it in 19 days while covering ove…
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Discover the secrets behind Killian Jornet's favorite trail shoe, the NNORMAL TOMIR! Join me as I dive into the features of this remarkable shoe, backed by one of the world's top ultra runners. Whether you're an avid trail runner, hiking enthusiast, or simply love a comfortable everyday trainer, the TOMIR offers an impressive 8mm drop, similar to t…
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1:00 Buzz and Zoë discuss the intersection of trail running and alpinism, and how runners can stay safe when seeking high adventure. 14:00 Zoë interviews Kilian Jornet about his Alpine Connections Project, where he linked 82 peaks in under 20 days entirely under his own power. Kilian unpacks how he trained for his epic alpine adventure, and why he …
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Discover the hidden gems of Georgetown with the River's Edge Trail Race! 🏃 Nestled right in the heart of the city, these trails offer a serene escape without straying too far from civilization. Whether you're a seasoned athlete or a running enthusiast, this video is your sneak peek into the wonders of the River's Edge Race scheduled for May 25th. I…
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Look, everything in Chicago was great, especially the Chicago Marathon and the big group of running raccoons wearing Believe singlets as they chased down their goals over 26.2 miles. The epic shakeout run was also pretty rad. But we're just saying that maybe deep dish isn't for us and that tavern pizza is mid. The dogs ruled, though. Unsurprisingly…
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Exploring the Hoka Mach 6: Is this the ultimate road shoe for 2024? Dive into my journey as I lace up the latest from Hoka, the Mach 6, and see if it lives up to its predecessor, the Mach 5. With an innovative design that includes a double-sewn tongue, crocheted nylon upper for supreme breathability, and a streamlined SCF EVA sole, this shoe is lig…
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Discover the MXXY Hydration System: a potential game-changer for trail runners seeking innovative hydration solutions! 🏃‍♂️💦 In this detailed review, we explore the MXXY Flex hydration bladder, designed to revolutionize your runs by allowing customizable mixtures of hydration fluids and water. Perfect for those who are meticulous about their hydrat…
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We put on all of our pants and jackets to record this HOT episode! The main training topic is on the wild science of heat suit training. In 2021, a case study revealed that simply wearing a couple layers while doing easy biking could rapidly expand hemoglobin mass, which could improve performance in all conditions. Numerous other studies support th…
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Hey runners ! 🌟 Join me as I explore the highly anticipated Great Springs Trail Race Course, set to debut in March 2025 at Southeast Metropolitan Park near Austin, Texas. This trail race offers something for everyone, from a challenging 5k to an exhilarating 50k. Directions to the park:https://www.google.com/maps/place/Southeast+Metropolitan+Park+P…
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00:00:53 Buzz and Zoë chat through advice they wish they had gotten when they first started running, and advice for new and aspiring trail and ultrarunners. 00:8:53 Zoë interviews Randi Zuckerberg (yes, that Zuckerberg!) about how she went from running a half marathon, to signing up for the Cocodona 250 in a year. Plus, they dive into what it means…
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Welcome to the ultimate home gym upgrade with the RITFIT M1 Power Cage! In this video, I dive into the features of this incredible piece of equipment that has completely transformed my garage gym. The RITFIT M1 Power Cage not only includes a robust power cage but also a built-in cable system and a Smith machine, making it a versatile addition for a…
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Today, I'm diving into the Bob & Brad D5 Pro Massage Gun: Worth the Hype? In this review, I'll share my hands-on experience with this powerful device, comparing it to my trusty Shogun massage gun. Discover the unique features like the 60% increased power, ergonomic handle, and the innovative air pillow attachment that gives a deep massage. With 4 h…
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Discover the minimalist magic of Runner's Agile Shoes in this comprehensive review. These barefoot, zero-drop shoes, crafted from recycled flyknit material, offer remarkable comfort and a snug fit that surprises, much like slipping into your favorite house shoes. With a unique no-tie lace design and a lightweight 2mm synthetic rubber outsole, they'…
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Chicago is here and Berlin toenails are gone, dragon skulls are real, and we wax nostalgic about fishbones in beer and Mayor McCheese and also tarantula smuggling. Just another week for the gang of The Drop. We also cover the upcoming Mizuno Rebellion Pro Beta.SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS!LMNTOur go-to supplement for before, during, and after the Berlin Ma…
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We made loud grunting noises to celebrate recording this great episode! A primary training discussion was on putting the finishing touches on the quick build for the Javelina 100 Miler. It's getting very, very real. Confidence is rising, and falling, and falling some more, then rising again. We bring you into the process to feel just how hard it al…
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It's actually unreal that we're giving the head of the #widefootfam the space to speak his mind for episode 300, but sometimes the planets align for the most average people. Just kidding, we love Jarrett and know how much all the wide foot runners out there love him too. We dig into his running story, which mostly involves his love of donuts and Co…
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They say to give gold on the 50th anniversary, but we decided to get it instead. This is our recap of the 50th Berlin Marathon, a weekend filled with everything that makes running golden: community events, shoe releases, friends gained along the way, hardships and victories. We came away with a deeper appreciation and respect and gratitude for all …
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Today, I'm thrilled to share my INOV8 Trailfly Review: Conquering Rocky Terrains with Ease. From the heart of the Lake District in the UK, INOV8 has crafted a shoe that's not just a piece of gear but a testament to innovation, designed to tackle the hard and rocky trails.In this review, I delve deep into the features that set the Trailfly apart, li…
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Discover the trail-running revolution with the Arc'teryx Sylan and its game-changing Vibram Mega Grip! In today's video, we dive deep into the craftsmanship and performance of the Arc'teryx Sylan, a trail shoe that's rapidly becoming a favorite among mountain running enthusiasts. Known for their top-tier outerwear, Arc'teryx has stepped up their ga…
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We loaded up on some "awake" tea to feel extra caffeinated for this spicy episode! Listeners send in such great questions, and it was so fun to get down and dirty with some fascinating topics. It's called a "no secrets" Q+A because we often see conversations with elite athletes and coaches where it's clear that we aren't getting the full picture. O…
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Are you on the hunt for the best trail shoe of the year? Look no further than the La Sportiva Prodigio! In today's video, I dive deep into why this European trail shoe stands out from the competition. From its breathable knit upper and reinforced toe cap to its innovative 2K molding technology outsole, the Prodigio is designed for ultimate comfort …
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With some great updates to the Hyperion line and the release of the Brooks Glycerin Max, we think it's safe to say that Brooks is back. Today's guest, Carson Caprara, had a big hand in that as he oversaw the efforts in footwear over the past couple years, and the fruits of that labor are starting to pay off. None of us hold anything back as we talk…
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Discover the harsh reality behind the Altra Olympus 6 in my latest video. As an avid runner and longtime fan of Altra footwear, I've experienced every version since the Olympus 3. Unfortunately, the Olympus 6 disappoints. With an increase in weight and a poorly executed redesign, this shoe no longer feels like the neutral companion runners have com…
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Discover the performance and innovation behind Ulysses Shoes: Road Tested and Performance Ready. In this video, I dive into the unique features of Ulysses Shoes, a new Swiss brand revolutionizing the running scene since 2020. With their Natural Adaptive Running System (Nars), these shoes promise a responsive and comfortable experience for all runne…
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Sport psychology coach Emily Saul takes us through a pre-marathon meditation, just in time for all our fall marathons. Listen the night before to relax and get in the right mindset. Follow Emily on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/emilysaulboston/?hl=en
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The Berlin Marathon is just a couple days, and technically we're already there, but we're still back in Baltimore for this episode of the podcast. We keep it weird with our running updates and our discussion on Thomas and Robbe's shared fear of ears, while throwing in some industry talk on account of Nike's shakeup in leadership. We also give some …
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Thomas and Robbe sit down and chat with Patrick Nava, Global Vice President of Product Management Running at Adidas, about all things running at Adidas, including everything that went into the development of the all-new Adios Pro 4 and the Evo Pro 1. Another good one for all the shoe geeks out there.…
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We marveled at the athletic performance of the year to prepare for this great episode! It kicked off with us picking our jaws up off the floor, in awe of Tara Dower's overall record on the Appalachian Trail. Coach Megan delves into what made it possible (strides and speed) and what sets Tara apart (being a superhero). This achievement will take dec…
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This week on the podcast, shoe reviewer Alex joins us to talk about his trip to Austria and the Adidas Terrex Infinite Trails 46K race. Then we dive into our own running, along with spectating cross-country, a deep-dive on soft pretzels, how to make a special Dr. Pepper beverage, and the adventures of Robbe’s 20-miler. Finally, we discuss the Brook…
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We slurped down a truly inspiring amount of carbohydrates before recording this great episode! The main topic was a new study with a fascinating design, equalizing carb intake across a day, but modulating the quantity consumed in the post-exercise window. There were major changes in next-day performance! Training can often be an adaptation contest,…
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1:00 Buzz and Zoë break down their favorite moments in ultra running history, from historic race performances to establishing new routes and FKTs. 14:20 Coach, writer, and podcaster David Roche discusses his record-breaking win at the 2024 Leadville 100, diving into his training, shooting his shot, and why ultra runners are getting so much faster. …
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On this special in-studio episode of The Drop, Thomas and Meg chat with Paul Lang, ASICS global senior product manager. Go behind the scenes of what it's like to work for one of the biggest brands in running, how development and supply chains work, and what it's like figuring out consumer wants and buyer demands. Definitely a good one for all the i…
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In this episode, we recap our weekend performances at the Charles Street 12-Miler, our de facto tune-up race for Berlin. Meg crushed it, Robbe barely made it, Karl also showed up big, and Thomas– well, he's back, folks (mostly). We also talk about some new Diadora gear and the Fila Float Maxxi 2 Pro, a Brazilian model that's kinda hot... for a shoe…
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We filled the pauses in conversation with all of our deepest confessions before recording this great episode! A main topic was how we thought about strength work and heat training in the Leadville 100 build. While David's mileage wasn't wildly high, he made some big changes in the last year that harness the power of heat to spur hematological chang…
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Keira's back! Our favorite pro athlete/Oreo reviewer/costume expert extraordinaire is back to chat all things running, training, and moving to Utah. This, after her recent win at the U.S. 20K Championships. Just a legend doing legendary things. Follow Keira on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/keiradamato/…
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We figured this week is as good as any to give you our favorite max cushion shoes of the year, but before we do, we talk about the curse on Thomas and how to break it, Keira D'Amato's 20K championship win, UTMB, and seriously– people need to recognize the greatness of the Paralympics. Looking to run sub-4 at the Chicago Marathon? Run with Robbe and…
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We put lubrication in all the right places before this amazing episode! The main topic was a rundown of our big takeaways from the UTMB races, the most important week of the trail running year. Times get faster and faster... but carnage comes with it. We talk about how the fueling revolution may be impacting races, both in terms of speed and GI iss…
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0:55 Zoë and Buzz discuss Buzz’s recent travels around Europe, and why running is such a great way to explore new places. 10:55 Zoë interviews Dr. Jeffrey Hammond, a podiatrist who works with professional athletes to troubleshoot common foot problems. They discuss how runners can prevent common ailments like plantar fascitis, Achilles tendonitis, a…
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You run a race, you finish, and then it's a memory. If it's a goal race, you probably want to remember that memory, and that's where MarathonFoto comes in. So much goes into getting you those photos, so we dive in and ask Brad and Conor how the race day orchestration works. By the end of this convo you'll have a much deeper appreciation for everyth…
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It's a whole lot of supernova talk on today's episode, with both the Adidas Supernova Prima and the Oasis reunion and what goes on when you're stuck in space for eight months. We also get Thomas's take on Alien: Romulus, and Robbe goes full Encyclopedia Brown in solving The Case of the North Carolina License. Enjoy! Looking to run sub-4 at the Chic…
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We had so much fun with this no-secrets episode on the Leadville 100 Mile course record! We answered a couple dozen listener questions on everything from training theory to race execution to supplements. We even detailed some harrowing stories about post-race recovery that will leave you breathless (from laughing). Throughout the history of the pod…
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Things don't stop around here, as we're in the throes of fall marathon training. Meg goes full emo and bleeds herself dry for the long run (thanks to some hardcore chafing), Robbe heads for the hills of Pennsylvania to take down some carny clowns, and Thomas goes full voodoo doll with his dry needling regimen. And then there's the Puma MagMax, a sh…
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We pinched each other to make sure it wasn’t all a dream before recording this celebration episode! This one was all about processing David’s course record run at the Leadville 100 Miler. For 19 years, Matt Carpenter’s Leadville record of 15:42 has been talked about as one of the most untouchable marks in running. But a lot has happened since 2005,…
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1:20 Buzz and Zoë break down the post-Olympics hype, and discuss whether or not trail running should be an Olympic sport, and what it would mean to see trail elevated to the world stage. 14:32 Zoë interviews Vic Thasiah, founder and President of Runners For Public Lands. They discuss why Vic founded RPL and what all runners can do to better protect…
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We've interviewed transcontinental runners like the legendary Mike Wardian, but this is a first. Cameron Balser is an ultrarunner and Mount to Coast athlete who recently finished a nearly year-long journey running the perimeter of the United States, averaging nearly 40 miles a day over that time, entirely self-supported. We talk about the challenge…
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