TWR Listeners Lounge - George Murray vol 2

The Wilder Ride

In this episode, hosts Alan Sanders and Walt Murray bring back former FBI Agent from season three, a show we call, George Murray vol 2. The last time we spoke with George, we spent a good amount of time going through his backstory, from Vietnam through retiring from the FBI. This time we spend almost the entire episode on his FBI background.

Alan and Walt start off discussing all the stories hitting the media of late, which were considered false this time last year. So many people's voices were squashed. Alan hopes we all wake up and realize it's better to have more information, not less, especially if the information is wrong. Once George joins, he weighs in on the topic before the interview turns toward his career.

George Murray vol 2 begins with a seventh grader who met an agent and decided that was going to be his career. After college and a stint serving in Vietnam, George went to Quantico and became a field agent. Alan and Walt ask about the changes happening in the Bureau at the time, including the start of Behavioral Sciences. This led to a discussion of Wayne Williams and the Atlanta Child Murders. George was actually part of the overall surveillance team. During that time, an incident occurred where a mental health patient stopped taking his meds and decided to break into the building with the FBI and hold 9 agents hostage. A SWAT team eventually had to take him down.

The conversation rolls into the recent Colonial Pipeline issue with Russian hackers and how the FBI was able to recover significant funds. Alan and George then share some information about the pipeline situation, leading Alan to ask about politics in the Bureau. After that, Alan and Walt begin to discuss some of the undercover work and arrests across George's career. This leads Alan to remind the audience he is in awe of the vast majority of people working in law enforcement. Alan brings up the latest cyber sting regarding the ANOM service, which netted hundreds of arrests.

As the interview winds down, Walt asks about George ever firing his gun and about asking if young people should want to work for the FBI. Alan jumps in with his worry of how law enforcement is getting so much negative press that even police-friendly communities are seeing hiring shortages. George hopes police will get back to where they were and society can move forward with law and order. Then the hosts let him go before finishing the remaining segments of the show, with Walt's horrible movie review, crazy news items and the Entertainment Segment.

WATCHING

Walt has finished the cartoon, Invincible, on Netflix. Though Alan saved spoilers, they both agree there is one really big unanswered question. But, they both plan to watch season two. Walt like the foreign film, True Crimes, playing of Tubi and Vudu. Finally, he caught, Major Events of WWII in Color and loved it. Alan admitted with his Father-in-Law visiting, they have been watching a lot of movies. Alan saw, Delirious, with John Candy. It was okay. Then he watched Back to the Future 1 and 2 with high praise for the much loved films. He loved re-watching, Gran Tarino, with Clint Eastwood. Then on YouTube, Alan watches, The Daily Doug, The Charismatic Voice, Ashleigh Burton, Popcorn in Bed, Nerd of the Rings, Listening In and Rick Beato's show, What Makes this Song Great? In Rick's recent episode he broke down Pink Floyd's, "Comfortably Numb."

READING

Alan didn't have anything to report. Walt was re-reading, "Propaganda," by Edward Bernays from 1928. He is also still reading, "The Fifty-Year Mission: The First 25 Years," about the creation of the original Star Trek show.

LISTENING

Walt's episodes of Office Space Minute have dropped and he's been listening to that excellent podcast breaking the film down a minute at a time. He is also listening to Camp Hell: Anneewakee and In the Red Clay. Alan continues to get weekly episodes on the 60MW Podcast. He is back to listening to The Indiana Jones Minute, back after a LONG hiatus. Finally, he's been playing score from The Lord of the Rings almost every night.