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Join Dr. Chrisha Anderson and Catherine McKenna for complex feelings, fangirling, and fun as they begin a second season of their Supernatural podcast--focused on the new series, "The Winchesters." With a pro-Destiel and queer Dean outlook, and special attention to LGBTQ+ content, they hope you'll come along for the ride. Special thanks and credit to our amazing contributors: Logo: Gio_Gui Music: VooDooBlooze Disclaimer: The information presented in this podcast is intended to be for entertai ...
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Join Chrisha and Catherine for a chaotic episode where all of the things that can happen in the background at Catherine's apartment do while they try to talk all about the music in the finale of The Winchesters. Topics range from just how exactly Dean did time- and universe-travel, to his kidnapping of the President of the United States, his intros…
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CONTENT WARNING: There is a discussion of suicide and suidical ideation as it pertains to the characters of Akrida Kyle & Lata from The Winchesters and Dean from Supernatural. Please be aware and kind to yourselves, Wayward Friends. The portion that discusses this content is from 3:33 to 8:48 and has been marked as a chapter so you can easily skip …
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In this episode, Chrisha and Catherine start the discussion with Jack and his odd behavior at the end of Supernatural and during The Winchesters' finale before moving on to talk about Baby, The Winchesters' title card and its connection to the Akrida, and the logistics behind Cas' absence. The conclude by reflecting on what was left unresolved and …
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In this episode, Chrisha and Catherine discuss how the car scene at the end of the episode should have been, as a giant infodump, dull--and yet it was not (thanks, Ackles and Thompson!). They also discuss the clapbacks to the Supernatural finale, how dying and going through the multiverse changed Dean, the John and Dean role reversals, how the conc…
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In this episode, Chrisha and Catherine catch up on what's been going on behind the scenes with each other, the writers' and actors' strikes and victories, the ongoing trash-fires at networks and streamers, and their gratitude to folks behind The Winchesters for giving fans a thoughtful and healing ending. The main part of the episode focuses on the…
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Note: This is a re-release of Chrisha and Catherine's reaction episode to The Winchesters' finale, which was originally released on March 8, 2023. A full analysis of "That's No Way to Say Goodbye" will be released in January, 2024. In this raw audio episode, Chrisha and Catherine discuss their initial reactions to The Winchesters' season finale, "H…
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In this episode, Chrisha and Catherine look into the theme of mirrors and misdirection, which is particularly prevalent in this episode but has been a running theme throughout the series. They also examine the parallels this episode has with multiple episodes of Supernatural, which all look at the temptation of peace and happiness vs. facing the di…
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In this episode, Chrisha and Catherine talk about the penultimate episode of The Winchesters, "The Tears of a Clown." Topics include: the concern about Ada considering giving up her soul; Dean's narration about the lies we tell ourselves and what self-lies he might be confronting; Mary's addressing of issues and John's determined avoidance; Carlos'…
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In this episode, Chrisha and Catherine talk jackets and callbacks, Lata's relationship with Maggie, queer media texts, the implications of this being an autobiographical story (told from Dean's perspective), and the interesting messaging behind the song "You've Got a Friend", after which the episode is named. Central to the episode is their discuss…
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In this episode, Chrisha and Catherine discuss the way that the series thus far has been a healing experience for many from Supernatural's finale, Mary's response to Betty and to John's arrest, the revelations about John while he's in police custody, Lata's journey of letting go of things that were not hers to carry, the monster of the week (Erebus…
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CONTENT WARNING: This episode includes discussions of Holocaust imagery and the medical and institutional history of targeting marginalized and oppressed groups for exploitation and experimentation. Please be mindful of your wellbeing when deciding to listen (Begins 19:14; Ends 30:18). In this episode, Chrisha and Catherine discuss the troubling el…
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This episode begins with a discussion of fate vs luck in "Cast Your Fate to the Wind" and the wider Supernatural franchise. Catherine and Chrisha then move on to monsters and gods, the differences between The Winchesters' vampires and the vampires from Supernatural (and what those differences might mean), and how the episode's music spoke into its …
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In this episode, Chrisha and Catherine discuss The Winchesters' episode "Cast Your Fate to the Wind," starting with the diversity presented behind the scenes and onscreen and moving on to the themes of free will versus fate and how what we think we see may not be the full story. They also talk about Mary's biggest fear, the progress between John an…
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In this episode, Chrisha and Catherine delve into what they've affectionately termed "the red string": trying to figure out what all the hints and mysteries behind each episode are leading to. Topics include: What the HELL was Chuck doing onstage in the episode?; Dean's mysterious reappearance and its implications for the series; Jojo's Insta live …
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SPOILER WARNING: This episode contains reactions to and discussions of The Winchesters' season finale, "Hey, That's No Way To Say Goodbye." . . . . . . . . . . . In this raw audio episode, Chrisha and Catherine discuss their initial reactions to The Winchesters' season finale, "Hey, That's No Way To Say Goodbye," with particular attention to the he…
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If you want to follow along with Chrisha's social media reveals, scroll down to find all the links! In this episode, Chrisha and Catherine do a whole lot of screeching about: Dean Dean's birthday Dean talking about having an open heart That freaking amazing Dean reveal at the end of the episode Dean F***ing Winchester They also look at Mary's stren…
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In Part 2 of their 2-parter on The Winchesters' "Reflections," Chrisha and Catherine take out their red string and have fun trying to untangle the mess of what the heck is going on in the wider story. They look at look at the connections between the Akrida and Supernatural S7's Leviathan and delve further into differences between the two series: be…
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In Part 1 of their 2-parter on The Winchesters' "Reflections," Chrisha and Catherine look at the characters' journeys--everything from the psychological reasons for John's regression under pressure to Millie and Ada bonding to Carlos' knowledge of Latin. In the midst of it all, they talk about odd ghouls, the ins and outs of Akrida possession, and …
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Content Warning: This episode includes discussions of Dean Winchester's death. In Part 2 of their 2-parter on The Winchesters' "Art of Dying," Chrisha and Catherine go full red string with discussions about possible AUs, the musical paratexts and how they speak into the story, and parallels between John and Mary and Destiel. The Winchesters audio c…
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In Part 1 of their 2-parter on The Winchesters' "Art of Dying," Chrisha and Catherine talk about barns. A lot. They also discuss Mary's growth as a leader, John's anger and his attempt at healing, Lata's powerful choice for non-violence, and Carlos' sudden silence in the face of true attraction--and how that speaks to Dean's reactions towards Cas. …
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In Part 2 of their two-parter on The Winchesters' "Legacy of a Mind," Chrisha and Catherine pull out the red string. They delve into the reasons why Mary and John's journey into Mary's mind may have felt a little familiar, why the monster of the week may have given us some clues as to what the heck is going on with the series, and discuss about the…
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It was another massive recording session for episode five of The Winchesters, "Legacy of a Mind," so this week Chrisha and Catherine are breaking it down into two different parts. Part 1 explores the Monster Club's character arcs in the episode and the themes of lies vs. honesty and hiding vs. being seen. Of special focus are Mary's exploration of …
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Content Warning: This episode includes discussion of PTSD and John's self-harm behavior. It's been a bit of a wait, but Catherine and Chrisha are back with a MASSIVE almost 2 hour episode about The Winchester's E4, "Masters of War." They focus in on the trauma journeys faced by the two different pairs in the episode: John and Carlos, and Lata and M…
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Episode 3 of The Winchesters was wild, and Catherine and Chrisha were definitely feeling like that gif of the guy with the red string by the end of recording this episode. From new character revelations to the dueling music narratives to the way that radio waves seemed to play an important role in the episode, they dig deep into the meta of the epi…
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Episode 2 of The Winchesters hit hard on the concept of monstrous parents, generational trauma, cycles of abuse, and finding yourself. From La Tunda, to Mary's relationship with Samuel, to John and Millie's fractious interactions, Chrisha and Catherine delve into and unpack the big and difficult concepts that this episode tackled. The Winchesters a…
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Chrisha and Catherine have SOOOOO many thoughts about The Winchesters' premiere. From discussions about all the new characters, the incredible music, the Easter eggs and the parallels between moments from this new show and Supernatural, to thoughts about what might, exactly, be going on with Dean, this episode has a little bit of everything. The Wi…
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There has been so much promotional material coming out about The Winchesters that Catherine and Chrisha have literally not been able to keep up! But they did have an opportunity to record about some of it, and you can listen to their thoughts about: - that slightly different version of "Carry On Wayward Son" under a recent promo - more about that C…
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In this full length episode, Chrisha and Catherine go into a more in-depth look at the upcoming series, The Winchesters. After their initial full on "nope" reaction to its first mention, they share what led them to give it a try. While still having reservations, they discuss what, exactly, from behind the scenes info, trailers, photo shoots, and po…
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The Fangirl Business is BACK with a new episode teasing their new project: the upcoming series, The Winchesters. Welcoming listeners both old and new, Catherine and Chrisha discuss how their previous season, which followed the highs and lows of Supernatural's Season 15, is informing their current project. With a longer episode to come before The Wi…
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Content Warning: This episode contains audio from Castiel's confession scene. In what is a very 2022 moment, Chrisha and Catherine present to you a podcast they recorded in 2021--whilst also announcing an official hiatus after having not released any content for the past nine months. Yes, this pandemic sure has been a ride! Join them for some Desti…
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*CONTENT WARNING: This episode discusses and analyzes "Carry On," starting at Dean's funeral and ending at the bridge reunion. We are including chapter markers in this episode so that you can skip moments that may be too difficult. There are no audio clips in this episode, as we feel that they could be triggering. Please take care of yourselves, fr…
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*CONTENT WARNING: This episode discusses and analyzes "Carry On," starting with a discussion of the barn setting and including the entirety of Dean's death scene. We are including chapter markers in this episode so that you can skip moments that may be too difficult. There are no audio clips in this episode, as we feel that they could be triggering…
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*CONTENT WARNING: This episode discusses and analyzes "Carry On" up to and including the vampire fight, but prior to Dean's death. We are including chapter markers in this episode so that you can skip moments that may be too difficult. There are no audio clips in this episode, as we feel that they could be triggering. Please take care of yourselves…
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Note: Due to life, an abundance of excellent series rewatch podcasts, and the new series The Winchesters, "Reclaiming Supernatural" has been put on the back burner for the immediate future. In this episode of The Fangirl Business, Chrisha and Catherine talk about their upcoming project, "Reclaiming Supernatural," a rewatch with a twist that will st…
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*S15E20 SPOILERS DISCUSSED IN THIS EPISODE* Chrisha and Catherine are back with an all-new State of the Fandom (SotF) episode, after a much needed haitus! In this podcast, they discuss this transitional period for the fandom and their own personal journeys post Supernatural's finale, and they hint at what's coming next for The Fangirl Business! CON…
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*S15E20 SPOILERS BELOW* In their overview of Supernatural’s finale, Chrisha and Catherine discuss their personal reactions and the many triggers embedded within the narrative. Note: There are no audio clips in this episode of The Fangirl Business. CONTENT WARNING: Discussion of abuse, childlessness, ableism, misogyny, queer erasure, suicide, & suic…
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*S15E19 SPOILERS BELOW* The time has come, wayward friends... our LAST podcast before we know it all! Join Chrisha and Catherine as they discuss all things Destiel in Inherit The Earth, including Cas' loud absence, Dean's self-actualization, and what they believe we may be exploring the exact nature of in Act 2! CONTENT WARNING: This episode delves…
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*S15E19 SPOILERS BELOW* Chrisha and Catherine's initial reaction to "Inherit the Earth" was very much "WTAF?" However, after some discussion, and some delving into the details, their ultimate take is: "GENIUS!" Come along for the ride as they discuss the penultimate episode and all that's going on just underneath its surface. Supernatural audio cli…
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*S15E18 SPOILERS BELOW* At last... pie! Come join Chrisha and Catherine in their most joyous podcast episode to date, as they squee and sob their way through Destiel going CANON! Beyond the squee, they process their feelings about the ship and what it means for them and for queer representation. And because they can't help themselves, they delve in…
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*S15E18 SPOILERS BELOW* In this episode of highly delicious and nutritious kale-like content, Chrisha and Catherine start their discussion of Despair, including real world context, guest stars, Dean's dramatic change after the departure of Chuck, Dad!Sam, the parallels between Sam and Jack, Sam's leadership, and Jack's maturity. Supernatural audio …
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*S15E17 SPOILERS BELOW* In this episode (the last one before the subtext became the text!), Chrisha and Catherine discuss the parallels between Adam and Seraphina and Dean and Cas and consider the implications of Chuck's revelations about Amara and Castiel from a shipping perspective. Supernatural audio clip credits: The CW Follow us on Twitter @Th…
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*S15E17 SPOILERS BELOW* In another supersized podcast, Chrisha and Catherine begin the work of analyzing "Unity." In an excellently crafted episode that generated a lot of big feelings, they hone in on Dean's rage, Sam's vulnerability, and Cas' free will. Additionally, they discuss the nuanced way in which Amara was portrayed in this episode: build…
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*S15E16 SPOILERS BELOW* In this mini shipping episode about "Drag Me Away (From You)", Chrisha and Catherine delve into music choices, prayer in Supernatural, the mirroring of Dean and Travis, and Dean's continued lack of sexual interest in female characters this season. Supernatural audio clip credits: The CW Music credits: The Ink Spots, "If I Di…
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*S15E18 SPOILERS BELOW* Chrisha and Catherine could not contain their excitement about DESTIEL GOING FREAKING CANON in "Despair" and literally started recording this within 15 minutes of the episode ending on the East Coast. Come listen to them screech, sob, and celebrate Castiel telling Dean that HE LOVES HIM, and share their love for the enduranc…
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*S15E16 SPOILERS BELOW* It's another supersized podcast from Chrisha and Catherine! In it, they discuss the hits and misses of "Drag Me Away (From You)", including the troubling depiction of therapy, characterization choices, and the way that the episode depicted early childhood trauma and its impact on Dean's current behavior. They also cheer for …
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*S15E15 SPOILERS BELOW* Chrisha and Catherine discuss "Gimme Shelter"'s shipping elements, focusing in on Dean and Cas' parenting, that photo Cas used to summon the crossroads demon, and the problematic nature of Amara and Dean's past "relationship." They go on to muse about the series finale and what the effects may be for viewers past and present…
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*S15E15 SPOILERS BELOW* In this supersized podcast, Chrisha and Catherine discuss "Gimme Shelter," which was split between a lot of cuteness and a lot of heavy content. They squee over Cas' return and all the adorable moments in which Jack emulates his dads, but then turn to more serious topics: the way in which the episode explores the dark side o…
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*SPOILERS THROUGH S15E13 BELOW* In this episode (recorded just before the end of hiatus), Chrisha and Catherine look back at elements that have been laid down in previous seasons as they theorize about what may come in the final few episodes of Supernatural. With the relevance of the Garden fresh on their minds from "Destiny's Child," they start th…
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*S15E14 SPOILERS BELOW* They've survived their very last (and longest!) Hellatus, and Chrisha and Catherine are back with an all new, super-sized podcast about "Last Holiday!" They have an honest conversation about missing Cas, squee about all the cuteness from this episode, discuss the problematic ways in which torture and its repercussions were a…
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*SPOILERS THROUGH S15E13 BELOW* Join Chrisha and Catherine for a 2-for-1 shipping special, as they delve into the Destiel subtext of both Galaxy Brain AND Destiny's Child! From porn jokes to clinking glasses to toddler co-parenting to intricate religious symbolism, our show (and this podcast!) has it all! “Galaxy Brain” and “Destiny’s Child” audio …
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